Quantum Electron Energy Level for Hydrogenic atom

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum wavelength of light required to ionize a doubly ionized Lithium atom (Li++), which has one electron orbiting a nucleus with a +3 charge. The original poster attempts to apply energy formulas similar to those used for hydrogen atoms, considering the electron's ground state.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy formulas for hydrogen-like atoms and question the assumptions regarding mass and charge in the context of Li++. There is an exploration of the relationship between mass and energy levels, as well as the interpretation of variables in the energy equations.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the variables in the energy formula, specifically distinguishing between the mass of the electron and the nucleus. The original poster has made progress in understanding the relationship between the mass of the electron and the charge of the nucleus, leading to a revised interpretation of the energy calculations.

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There is a noted assumption that Li++ behaves similarly to hydrogen, which may not fully account for differences in mass and charge. The original poster's calculations suggest a misunderstanding of the factors influencing energy levels in multi-electron systems.

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1. Consider doubly ionized Lithium (Li++), which has one electron orbiting a +3 charge nucleus. Assuming the electron is in the ground state (n=1), what is the maximum wavelength of light, λ, that would completely ionize the Li++? (free the electron from the nucleus),
all variables and given/known data

2. Energy of a Hydrogen atom is \frac{-13.606eV}{n^{2}} where 'n' is the energy level. The general formula is:
E = \frac{-1}{4\pi r^{2}}\frac{me^{4}}{2\bar{h}n^{2}}
for atoms with one electron.

For light:
E = \frac{1240eV-nm}{λ}

3. I assumed that Li++ would be like a hydrogen atom with 3 times the mass. Since E is proportional to m, the energy of Li should be -13.606eV*(3)/n^2 = 40.818eV. (n=1) I plugged this into the equation λ = 1240eV-nm/E, and got λ = 30.38nm.
The correct answer is 10.1nm... so I am off by a factor of three. So does this mean that the doubly ionized lithium actually has 9 times the mass?

Thank you!
 
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Mass is not the only difference between H and Li.
 
In the energy formula, does m stand for the mass of the atom or the mass of the electron?
 
Hi guys,
I figured it out. As it turns out m is mass of the electron, and e^4 is actually the charge of the nucleus squared times the charge of the electron squared. Which happens to be e^4 in an H atom. In this case it was e^2*(3e)^2 That's where the factor of 9 comes from! Thanks
 

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