Basis for P2 and Linear Transformation

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The discussion revolves around proving that a set of polynomials forms a basis for the vector space of polynomials of degree 2, denoted as P2. The original poster presents a set B consisting of three polynomials and poses questions regarding linear independence, linear combinations, and the application of a linear transformation on these polynomials.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to prove linear independence for the set B and suggest checking the textbook for relevant theorems. There are questions about the correctness of the original poster's proposed linear combination for part b and the definitions used for the variables. Some participants emphasize the importance of showing derivations and calculations clearly.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the proof of linear independence and the need for clearer derivations in the linear combination. There is recognition of potential errors in the original poster's calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the proposed solutions.

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Participants note that the original poster's definitions of the polynomials may contain mistakes, and there is a suggestion to verify the properties of linear transformations as part of the discussion. The original poster's use of notation and the setup of the problem are also under scrutiny.

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Hello. I'm having some trouble with this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Homework Statement



Consider B= (2x+3, 3x^2 +1, -5x^2 + x-1}

a) Prove that B is a basis for P_2

b) Express -x^2 - 2 as a linear combination of the elements of B

c) If t: P_2 -> P_2 is a linear transformation, and T(2x+3) = x^2 -1, T(3x^2 +1) = x^2 -2x, T(-5x^2 +x-1)= -x^2 +3x, compute T(-x^2 -2) 2. The attempt at a solution

a)
Since:
B spans P2 and B is linearly independent, B is a basis for P2

b)
B = {2x+3, 3x2+1, 5x2+x-1}
2x t 3 = a
3x2 +1 = b
-5x2 + x -1 = c

By inspection:
-x2 - 2 = 2c + 3b –a
-x2 - 2 = 2(-5x2 + x -1) + 3(3x2 +1) – (2x t 3)

c) I typed it in Microsoft Word and uploaded it here:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6180/matrixtheorydj6.png

Thanks
 
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For point a), I guess you need to prove it.
At least you need to prove the linear independence.
How can you prove that these three polynoms (vectors) are linearly independent?
Check your textbook.
Counting and using a theorem should then end the proof. Textbook again.

For point b), you don't show your derivation and a solution in itself is not interresting.
Moreover it is probably wrong, if I can guess correctly what your wrote.
Assuming you wanted to define the following notations (check for some mistakes):

a = 2 x + 3
b = 3 x2 + 1
c = 5 x2 + x - 1

then simply checking your proposal gives:

2c + 3b - a = -2 + 19 x2 and this is different from -x^2 - 2

Therefore, as far as I guessed correctly from your post, your answer is wrong.

For point c), this is straightforward if you have solved point b) correctly.
This is just a substitution and a few calculations.
Remember what a linear transformation is (see textbook).
What are the main properties defining a linear transformation?
 
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lalbatros said:
For point b), you don't show your derivation and a solution in itself is not interresting.
Moreover it is probably wrong, if I can guess correctly what your wrote.
Assuming you wanted to define the following notations (check for some mistakes):

a = 2 x + 3
b = 3 x2 + 1
c = 5 x2 + x - 1

then simply checking your proposal gives:

2c + 3b - a = -2 + 19 x2 and this is different from -x^2 - 2

Therefore, as far as I guessed correctly from your post, your answer is wrong.

For point c), this is straightforward if you have solved point b) correctly.
This is just a substitution and a few calculations.
Remember what a linear transformation is (see textbook).
What are the main properties defining a linear transformation?

b) it was suppose to be
a = 2 x + 3
b = 3 x2 + 1
c = -5 x2 + x - 1
 
Then I guess the linear combination you gave is correct.
For point c, you simply need to reproduce the same combination on the tansfromed vectors to get transformed of the combination.
You should show clearly how you did to solve point b). Should be a system of equations...
For point a), prove the independence.
 

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