Bead and loop-the-loop: normal force?

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The discussion revolves around a bead sliding around a loop-the-loop, focusing on the normal force acting on the bead at the top of the loop given its mass and speed. Participants explore the implications of the bead's contact with the track, particularly considering scenarios where the bead has a hole through which the track passes.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the nature of the normal force, particularly in relation to the bead's contact with the track when considering the size of the hole in the bead. There is discussion about whether the bead remains in contact with the track at high speeds and how this affects the normal force required for circular motion.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the relationship between speed and normal force, while others are examining the assumptions regarding contact between the bead and the track. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive questions are being raised about the mechanics involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the effects of the bead's hole size on its interaction with the track, which introduces uncertainty regarding the normal force's origin and magnitude in this specific scenario.

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Bead and loop-the-loop: normal force??

Homework Statement



A bead sliding around a loop the loop. Given its mass and speed at the top of the loop, we want the normal force on it.

Homework Equations



mv^2/r = mg + N

The Attempt at a Solution



I have the correct solution that the normal will be downward. My question is from what would this normal force exist? I mean if the bead has a hole that the track is passing through, how can we understand normal force (that comes from the contact between the bead and the track).??

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Say the hole in the bead was oversized, you know, the track might be 1 cm diameter wire, but the hole in the bead is 2cm. Do you think that the bead stays in contact with the track at the edge of the hole interface, or does it pass through it without the edges of the hole touching the rail?
 
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Maybe if it is moving with a height speed it not touch the rail.

Do you mean that the normal force here is a result of circular motionand is different from the normal exerted by, say, a table on a book that placed on it??
 
Yes, the normal force is necessary in order to keep the bead moving in a circle. But you're wrong about the bead not touching at high speed, the greater the speed, the greater the normal force, so there must be contact.
 
got it..

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