Becoming a Teacher: Specialist or Two Majors?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for a prospective teacher regarding whether to pursue a specialist in Mathematics or a double major that includes Mathematics and another science discipline, specifically Physical Sciences or Physics and Astrophysics. The conversation touches on implications for future employment in secondary school teaching and further education opportunities.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses interest in mathematics and teaching, considering a specialist in Mathematics versus a double major, and seeks guidance on the implications of each choice for secondary school teaching and further education.
  • Some participants suggest that the requirements for teaching can vary significantly by state or country, indicating that local regulations may influence the decision.
  • One participant mentions that in Texas, it is possible to obtain a teaching certificate without an education major, suggesting that practical teaching skills may be prioritized over specific majors.
  • Another participant notes that in Ontario, Canada, a Bachelor’s degree followed by a year of teacher's college is typically required for certification, aligning with the OP's program structure.
  • There is a request for clarification on the differences between a major in Physical Sciences and Physics and Astrophysics, with some participants indicating that this may vary by institution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the choice of major may depend on local educational requirements and personal teaching aspirations, but there is no consensus on which path is definitively better for future employment or educational opportunities.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the specific requirements for teaching certification that vary by region, and the discussion reflects differing educational systems and terminologies, particularly between Canada and the USA.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective education students, particularly those interested in teaching mathematics and sciences, as well as individuals exploring the implications of different educational paths in teaching careers.

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Hello,

I will be beginning my first year of university in the upcoming September, where I am enrolled in Concurrent Teacher Education/Science-Mathematics (in essence, it is a 5-year program, 4 of which is a B.A. or B.Sc. and 1 is the B.Ed. [teacher's college]). So, I am preparing my timetable for the upcoming course selection. However, I am having some difficulty in such decisions.

To start, my main interest is mathematics and teaching (specifically intermediate). I am allowed to choose from either doing a specialist in Mathematics, Mathematics and its Applications, or Physical and Mathematical Sciences. Similarly, I am allowed to do a total of two majors instead, or a major and two minors. In summary, I have been thinking of the following paths: a specialist in Math. or a major in Math. and a major in either Physical Sciences or Physics and Astrophysics (currently 'physics' is my second teachable, math. my first).

One problem is I don't really know the consequences of choosing the former (specialist in Math.) over the latter (double major), specifically its effect on me getting a job in secondary school teaching. I personally imagine a double major would make me more versatile and open more opportunities. However, I also see a specialist resulting in myself being, well, more specialized in math., making me more valuable and so forth. Continuing, in the problem description, the specialist in math. would be great for those who may wish to go into research, which is certainly something I would also love to do.

So, any information and guidance onto the consequences between the two paths related to my hopeful future in secondary school teaching and my ability to go further in my education if I so decide would be great.

Also, in regard to a major in Physical Sciences and Physics and Astrophysics, can anyone give a concrete difference? The only difference I can really find is that in first year for Physical Sciences you have to take intro chemistry; after that, the courses are about the same.


Much appreciation!
 
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5hassay said:
So, any information and guidance onto the consequences between the two paths related to my hopeful future in secondary school teaching and my ability to go further in my education if I so decide would be great.

A lot depends on the state that you work in since much of what you do depends on the requirements of state laws, which are different from place to place. Looking at the website of your state department of education will give you the mandatory requirements.

I do know that in Texas, there is a way of getting a teaching certificate without getting an education major. You get a bachelors degree in some science field, and then you can get a certificate by taking a few extra courses that will get you your teachers license.

My impression from people that have done high school teaching is that schools care less about technical qualification than about having the personality and classroom skills necessary to work as a high school teacher, so what major you have doesn't matter much.

Also, in regard to a major in Physical Sciences and Physics and Astrophysics, can anyone give a concrete difference?

This is very school dependent.
 
twofish-quant said:
A lot depends on the state that you work in

Or on the country. I suspect that the OP is not in the USA because of the terminology he uses.
 
twofish-quant said:
... I do know that in Texas, there is a way of getting a teaching certificate without getting an education major.

My impression from people that have done high school teaching is that schools care less about technical qualification than about having the personality and classroom skills necessary to work as a high school teacher, so what major you have doesn't matter much.

I live in Canada, Ontario, and, generally, one has to have a Bachelor in something and then do a year of teacher's college to become a certified teacher. My program basically includes the year of teacher's college, so I don't have to apply to said college after finishing my B.Sc.

Interesting about the requirements for actual secondary teaching! Luckily, I am actually excited for teaching intermediate classes, XD.

Thanks!
 
jtbell said:
Or on the country. I suspect that the OP is not in the USA because of the terminology he uses.

Yea, I am indeed not in the USA, but in Canada, Ontario
 
By any chance, are you going to the University of Toronto this September? I will be in my first year at the Scarborough Campus.
 

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