Non programming jobs for math majors

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The discussion revolves around the career prospects for math majors, particularly focusing on non-programming jobs. Participants express concerns about the expectation for math majors to be proficient in programming and the perceived lack of lucrative job opportunities outside of data science and software engineering. The conversation touches on personal experiences, feelings of entitlement, and the financial burden of university education.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses anxiety about programming assignments and questions the value of a math degree if it leads to a programming career.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that the world owes a job to math majors, suggesting that a narrow focus on non-programming roles may limit opportunities.
  • Some participants propose that math majors possess logical skills useful in software development, despite their discomfort with programming.
  • Several career options are suggested for math majors, including actuarial sciences, bio-statistics, economics, accounting, and teaching, with varying degrees of programming involvement.
  • Concerns are raised about the financial implications of attending university and the pressure to secure a lucrative job post-graduation.
  • One participant mentions that actuarial work can be mathematical and well-paying, while also noting the potential for corruption in pharmaceutical companies.
  • Another participant emphasizes the diversity of programming-related jobs, suggesting that not all require deep programming skills.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best career paths for math majors. There are competing views on the necessity of programming skills and the expectations placed on math graduates. Some express frustration over perceived entitlement to jobs, while others seek validation for their concerns about job prospects.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of uncertainty regarding the applicability of their math degree in the job market, with some feeling that their university education is not aligned with their career aspirations. There is also a lack of clarity on the specific skills required for various suggested career paths.

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When making difficult decisions, I try to write down a list of the factors which are important to me in the decision-making process. It can be a prioritized list, or a random list which can prioritized later. Prioritizing allows you to make more rigorous decisions.

For example, you could make a list of things which you want to achieve in your career, and order them according to their priority:
1. Doing math
2. Having a lucrative salary
3. Not getting too deeply into debt
4. Avoid becoming a SW engineer

(I made up some random priorities here). Keep this list at hand when comparing whether a career meets these requirements. Refine the list as you better understand why you rejected some careers and favored others.

Write down another list of things which drew you to math:
1. I am curious why mathematical objects behave the way they do.
2. I am good at math.
3. Math requires intense creativity.

Make as many lists as you need.

Choosing a career does not necessarily mean making an exclusive choice of one field over another. You can have a backup or fall-back career plan that is consistent with your lists, just in case it becomes apparent that your primary career choice is not going to happen.
 
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