Behind the border off the universe

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The discussion revolves around unconventional interpretations of relativity theory, particularly the nature of light, time, and consciousness. Participants explore speculative ideas about the relationship between awareness and the speed of light, as well as the implications of these ideas on the understanding of time and movement.

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  • One participant suggests that light speed should be considered as a 'zero point' and proposes that consciousness defines the border of the universe, as tomorrow does not exist yet.
  • Another participant posits that if awareness and light are equivalent, then time may not exist at all, leading to a mystical interpretation of these concepts.
  • There is a claim that accelerating to light speed would not be a significant problem, and that an object would feel weightless at that speed.
  • One participant mentions the perception of time when observing someone falling into a black hole, noting the complexities of time, gravity, and light as deceptive phenomena.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about the mathematical aspects of these ideas, indicating a need for further clarification and assistance.

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Participants express a range of speculative ideas without reaching consensus. There are competing views on the nature of time, light, and consciousness, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some claims rely on unconventional interpretations of physics and may lack rigorous mathematical backing. The discussion includes speculative reasoning that is not aligned with established scientific consensus.

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Readers interested in philosophical explorations of physics, the nature of time, and consciousness may find this discussion engaging.

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If general physics not will do, I tell my you my idea here..

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rudeonline said:
If general physics not will do, I tell my you my idea here..

I would like to tell you my idea about the relativity theory. Scientist should put the theory upsite down so that the lightspeed is zero and that we are moving tru time with the speed off light. Our own conciousness is the real border off the universe sipmly by the fact that tommerow does not exist yet. Light is like a trail what stands still while we are moving tru time. I can prove the stilness off light with 2 pieces off rope. The simple fact is, that if time stands still at lightspeed, there is nog possobility off movement at all.

I would say that litespeed should be the 'zero point'

...since its the fastest thing there is...then it should become ZERO.

Everything should be measured in relation to this zero...

I have been trying to connect 'Awareness' and the speed of lite for sometime...but have not been successful. :frown:

...I will continue the thought experiments :devil:
 
If 'awareness' and light are one and the same...then time may not exsist
at all...

This borders on Mytical...but I think I can get away with it down here in the philosophy section...




PS:Did U factor in the time it would take to accellarate to 80% of litespeed?...it may take several yrs
 
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eggman said:
If 'awareness' and light are one and the same...then time may not exsist
at all...

This borders on Mytical...but I think I can get away with it down here in the philosophy section...




PS:Did U factor in the time it would take to accellarate to 80% of litespeed?...it may take several yrs

I try to explain that we are moving with lightspeed tru time. The accelaration to get there is not a big problem. If an object falls with 10km/sec2 it will take only a few day's to reach te speed of light ( sory that I can not tell you exactly how much time, a person good in math could help me with this). The object itself will thing it is weightless. Try to sea Earth as a big falling object in space, light is just leaving us as a trail.
 
if we r moving with litespeed thru time...then we are time itself...

which in turn becomes timelessness

it cancels itself...

physics falls head first into the void of philosophy...
 
i read if u were to walk off into a black hole and i were to watch u do this...u would appear to stop...but from u'r end u would have fallen into the black hole...

Time/Gravity and Light seem to be tricksters of the brain...

All I can understand is the closer a body comes to lite speed...time comes to a stop

I have yet to understand all the details...about gravity and what not..
 
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You should try Indpendent reserach instead of philosophy
 
rudeonline said:
If general physics not will do, I tell my you my idea here..

No you won't.
 

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