Bending equation, can someone check my answer?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the second moment of area for an idealized I-section beam and determining the maximum bending moment it can withstand. Participants also touch on a related problem involving a steel bar bent into a circular arc, seeking assistance with the calculations involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mike presents a calculation for the second moment of area using the formula I = b(d^3)/12, but questions whether his approach is correct.
  • Another participant points out that the formula used by Mike applies only to rectangular shapes and suggests using the parallel axis theorem to compute the moment of inertia for the I-section beam.
  • Mike expresses uncertainty about the formula and requests clarification on the correct approach to calculate the moment of inertia.
  • A further reply explains that the moment of inertia should be calculated as the sum of the moments of inertia of each rectangle that makes up the I-section, plus adjustments for their distances from the neutral axis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correct method for calculating the second moment of area, with differing views on the appropriate formulas and approaches to use.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the geometry of the beam and the application of formulas, as well as the need for clarity on the parallel axis theorem and its application to composite shapes.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals studying structural engineering or mechanics, particularly those dealing with beam calculations and moment of inertia concepts.

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Homework Statement



The cross-section of an idealised I section beam has overall dimensions 12mm x 240mm deep. If the web and Flange are both 25mm Thick, determine the second moment of area of the section.
If the maximum bending stress is limited to 100MN/m2, determine the maximum bending moment the beam can withstand


Homework Equations



∂ = Stress Applied
Y = Distance form Neutral Axis
M = Applied moment
I = Second moment of area
E = Youngs modulus
R = Radius (measured to neutral axis)

(∂/y) = (M/I) = (E/R)

I = b . (d^3)
----------
12

Y = depth/2


The Attempt at a Solution



I = b . (d^3)
----------
12

b= 125-25 = 95
d= 240-50 = 190

I = [0.095 . (0.19^3)] / 12 = 5.4x10^-5

(∂/y) = (M/I)

100x10^6 = M
____________ _____________
{(.24/2)=0.12} {5.43x10^-5}

100x10^6
---------- x 5.43x10^-5 = M
0.12

M= 45000nm
45KNM

Is this correct.

Mike

Also I've just tryed the next (and last) one

Which i have no clue about.

A steel bar of rectangular cross-section is bent into a circular arc of 15m. The with of the cross-section is twice its depth.
If the maximum stress due to bending is 60MN/m2, determine the dimensions of the section and the magnitude of the applied moment.
Take young's modulus as 200GN/m2

Dont even no where to start on that one

Mike
 
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The formula I=bd^3/12 applies to a rectangular shape only. You have to compute the I of each of the 3 rectangles that comprise the section, and use the parallel axis theorem to get the I of the beam. Are you familiar with it?
 
I though something was wrong.

I think I've seen the equation but carnt find it in my notes?
Do you have it?

Mike
 
Basically, the moment of inertia of the section about its neutral axis is equal to sum of the moments of inertia of each rectangle, abouts its centroid, plus the sums of the (area of each rectangle times the square of the distance from its centroid to the neutral axis). From symmetry, the neutral axis is thru the middle of the beam. I_x = \Sigma I_n + A_nd^2. Please show your work in calculating this expression.
 

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