Bernoulli, Poisson & Normal Probability

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The problem involves analyzing the probability of a chocolate bar containing a certain number of hazardous squares using Binomial, Poisson, and Normal distributions. The context centers around the health risk posed by 10% of the chocolate squares.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Binomial distribution by summing probabilities for specific outcomes. There is consideration of the Poisson distribution with a defined mean. Questions arise regarding the Normal distribution, particularly about the need for integration and the correct use of mean and standard deviation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the dependence of squares within a chocolate bar. Some have provided guidance on using the Normal approximation and the concept of continuity correction, while others express confusion about the integration process and the application of formulas.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions of independence among the squares and the implications for calculating probabilities. Participants are also navigating the complexities of applying the Normal distribution in this context.

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[SOLVED] Bernoulli, Poisson & Normal Probability

Homework Statement

Every chocolate bar contains 100 squares, with 10% of the individual squares presenting a health hazard to people consuming them.

(a) Using the Binomial, Poisson and Normal distributions, write down formulas for
the probability that a single chocolate bar has at least 3 but no more than 7 deadly
squares.

The attempt at a solution

For the binomial part, I've just done Pr(x=3) + Pr(x=4) +... Pr(x=7). Just wondering if that's what you would do?

I've done the same for the Poisson, using μ = 10.

I'm stuck on Normal distribution though.
I'm thinking of using
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5079/untitledzi8.jpg
but I don't know σ.
 
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You can look at this as a Bernoulli for each individual square with p=0.1 and q=0.9; then variance = pq for each square. That would be the first approximation. Then you need to formulate a way around the problem that squares in a given bar are mutually dependent; e.g. if you know the first 90 are safe then you know that the remaining 10 are deadly. At least that's how I interpret your question.
 
Hmm, what do you suggest? I realize it's not as simple as the bernoulli and poisson where you can just add up the individual Pr's...
 
When I re-read the question I realized that the question does not imply a dependence. If there can be as few as 3 deadly squares, then knowing that 90 are safe does not tell me the remaining 10 are deadly. This makes it much easier. Under binomial, mean = np = 10 and variance = npq = 9, which you can apply to a normal distribution.
 
Yeah so std dev is 3, mean is 10
I just slap it into the above formula? Initially I thought I should integrate from 3 to 7, but it seems as though I should be doing from 2.5 to 7.5? Does this sound correct?
 
edit: I am totally confused for normal dist now. Am I supposed to integrate at all or do I just use the formula I posted near the top? I mean to integrate that massive thing even though I know std dev and mean is out of my scope. Am I even on the right track?
 
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The normal approximation to the binomial distribution for given p (q= 1-p) and n has mean pn and standard deviation [itex]\sqrt{np(1-p)}[/itex]. Use those in your formula for the standard z-score, and find the probability that x is between 2.5 and 7.5. (That's the "integer correction")
 
Can you guide me through it? I'm so damn lost.
 
So basically...

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1197/untitledzi8gt4.jpg
 
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Correct; except the left hand side is FX(7.5) - FX(2.5).
 
  • #11
Thanks a bunch!
 

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