Bessel function Solution to Second order ODE with exponential coefficient

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to the second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by x'' + e^(-2t)x = 0. The subject area involves differential equations and specifically the application of Bessel functions in the context of variable transformations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts a change of variables to simplify the ODE but expresses confusion regarding the presence of a function of t in front of the Bessel functions in their solution. Some participants question the handling of derivatives and suggest alternative substitutions to transform the equation into a more recognizable form. Others share their own attempts to follow the proposed methods and seek clarification on specific steps.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring various approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding substitutions and transformations, and there is a collaborative effort to clarify the steps involved in reaching the solution. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants note the challenge of ensuring the transformed equation aligns with known forms of Bessel differential equations. There is also mention of formatting issues in the thread that may affect readability.

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Homework Statement



Find the general solution to x'' + e^(-2t)x = 0, where '' = d2/dt2

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The Attempt at a Solution



First I did a change of variables: Let u = e^(-t)

Then du/dt = -e^(-t)

dx/dt = dx/du*du/dt = -e^(-t)*dx/du

d2x/dt2 = d/du(dx/dt)du/dt = e^(-2t)*d2x/du2

Subbing into the ODE, I get:

e^(-2t)*d2x/du2 + e^(-2t)x = 0

And I notice that the coefficients are just u^2

(u^2)x'' + (u^2)x = 0

Now at this point I could just cancel out the u^2 and get my sin and cos solutions, but the answer wants Bessel functions, so I use the general solution to ODEs of the form:

x2y'' + x(a+2bxr)y' + [c+dx2s-b(1-a-r)xr+b2x2r]y = 0

with a=0,b=0,c=0,d=1,s=1

The solution is then x(u) = u1/2Zp(u)

With p = 1/2

Or

x(t) = e^(-t/2)[c1*J1/2(e-t+c2*J-1/2(e-t)]


But this isn't the correct answer. There shouldn't be any function of t in front of the bessel functions, and I should be getting Y's and J's of integer order, not just J's of half-integer order.

If anyone has any insights please help!

Thanks
 
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That looks like you're not handling the derivatives and substitutions correctly. I tell you what, suppose I just write it as:

y''+e^{-2x}y=0

just so it's in the form of Wolfram Mathworld syntax for Bessel Differential equation then suppose you make the independent-variable substitution:

x=-\ln(t)

can you now then transform the DE from y as a function of x to a DE in terms of y as a function of t? Once you do that, then compare the resulting DE to the requisite form on the Mathworld site and then back-substitute t=e^{-x}.
 
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I've tried your idea, and it looks like that's pretty much what I've been doing the whole time, so I can't see where I'm going wrong. Here's what I did:

Where am I going wrong? Thanks for the help!
 
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Phil, when you post a real wide picture, it messes up the scrolling of the thread. You wanna' remove that please or post a smaller picture so it doesn't run off the right side of my screen? Look, how about we carefully start from the beginning in nicely-formatted latex. I'll start it for you:

We have:

y''+e^{-2x}y=0

Now let:

x=-ln(t)

then:

\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{dy}{dx}(-\frac{1}{t})

<br /> \begin{aligned}<br /> \frac{d^2 y}{dt^2}&amp;=\frac{1}{t^2}\frac{dy}{dx}-\frac{1}{t}\frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right)\\<br /> &amp;=\frac{1}{t^2}\frac{dy}{dx}-\frac{1}{t}\left(\frac{d^2 y}{dx^2}\frac{dx}{dt}\right)<br /> \end{aligned}<br />

Now, can you then follow what I did and then substitute all that into the original equation in x to obtain a DE in t?
 
Your process makes perfect sense. I've arrived at the desired result! Thanks for clarifying the steps!
 

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