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The discussion revolves around recommendations for engaging books related to physics that are not traditional textbooks. Participants seek suggestions that provide a general appreciation of physics and its concepts, rather than focusing solely on rigorous derivations or technical details.

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  • Some participants suggest a variety of popular science books, including titles by Richard Feynman, Stephen Hawking, and Simon Singh, among others.
  • There is a discussion about whether the books should contain thorough explanations of phenomena or if they can be more general, such as historical accounts of physics.
  • Several participants express a preference for books that are entertaining and accessible, even if they are somewhat outdated or not strictly scientific.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of biographies and historical narratives in understanding the development of scientific ideas.
  • There are mentions of specific books that have resonated with readers, such as "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan and "In Search of Schrödinger's Cat" by John Gribbin.

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Participants generally agree on the value of non-textbook physics literature, but there is no consensus on specific titles or the criteria for what constitutes a suitable recommendation.

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Some suggestions include books that may be outdated or not widely recognized, and there is a mix of personal preferences regarding the style and content of the recommended readings.

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Readers interested in popular science, physics history, and engaging narratives about scientific concepts may find this discussion valuable.

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I know how much people love textbooks and shun anything that isn't completely dry and rigorous, but sometimes I like to read books that will give me a general appreciation of physics and the world around me instead of derivations of equations. So, can anyone list some "must reads" - old or new - that are like this?? Suggestions made in this thread:

- FLOP - Richard Feynman
- QED - Richard Feynman
- Selfish Gene - Richard Dawkins
- Big Bang : The Origin of the Universe – Simon Singh
- The Elegant Universe - Brian Greene
- A Brief History of Time - Stephen Hawking
- Time, Space and Things - Ridley
- General Relativity from A to B - Geroch
- Thirty Years that Shook Physics: The Story of Quantum Theory - Gamow,
- Gravity - Gamow
- One, Two, Three... Infinity - Gamow
- Mr Tompkins - Gamow
- Biography of Physics - Gamow
- Journey into Gravity and Spacetime - Wheeler
- The Cosmic Frontiers of General Relativity - Kaufmann
- It's About Time - N. David Mermin
- Geometry, Relativity and the Fourth Dimension - Rucker
- Space, Time, and Gravity: The Theory of the Big Bang and Black Holes - Wald
- Basic Concepts of Physics - Chalmers Sherwin
- Primer of Quantum Mechanics - Chester
- Lagrangian Interaction: An Introduction to Relativistic Symmetry in Electrodynamics and Gravitation - Doughty
- A Guide to Feynman Diagrams in the Many-Body Problem - Mattuck
- Diagrammatica - Veltman
- Subtle Is the Lord - Pais
- The Road to Reality - Penrose
- Gravitational Curvature - Frankel
- Fermat's Last Theorem - Simon Singh
- The Forces of Nature - Davies

edit: Updated with a list of suggestions in this thread (bold if they got more than one recommendation)
 
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A Brief History Of Time? (Hawking)
 
hmm does it have to be text related as in having thorough explanations of phenomena and others or can it be anything physics related, like the history of relativity and whatnot
 
Ki Man said:
hmm does it have to be text related as in having thorough explanations of phenomena and others or can it be anything physics related, like the history of relativity and whatnot

Anything science related, as long as it's interesting! I very much enjoyed Bill Bryson's Theory of Everything even though the science was very very basic.

quasar987 said:
A Brief History Of Time? (Hawking)

Read it, of course :)
 
My list is somewhat heavy on relativity books bacause that was a obsession when I first read many of these. Interestingly, a lot of cranks are similarly obsessed. Hmmm.

Ridley, Time, Space and Things. How to think about basic concepts like space and time. In its 3rd edition.

Geroch, General Relativity from A to B.

Gamow, Thirty Years that Shook Physics: The Story of Quantum Theory.
Gamow, Gravity
Gamow, One, Two, Three... Infinity
Gamow, Mr Tompkins (various incarnations)
Gamow, Biography of Physics

Or any Gamow book, really, though sadly some of them are very out of date.

Feynman, QED.
Feynman, Lectures on Physics

Wheeler, Journey into Gravity and Spacetime. If that "boundary of a boundary" stuff in Gravitation flew over your head, Wheeler explains it here in non-mathematical way.

Kaufmann, The Cosmic Frontiers of General Relativity. This had cool stuff like what falling into a black hole would look like to the falling observer.

N. David Mermin, It's About Time. The best intro to special relativity. Not a poetry book.

Rucker, Geometry, Relativity and the Fourth Dimension. Rucker also writes whacky science fiction.

Wald, Space, Time, and Gravity: The Theory of the Big Bang and Black Holes

Chalmers Sherwin, Basic Concepts of Physics. One of those wonderful jewels produced during the early space age. This does have a textbook format, but I think it failed as a textbook because it doesn't really fit into the curriculum anywhere (though I think it would make a pretty good "modern physics" textbook if supplemented. Oh, and it hadn't been out of print for 40 years.) The "basic concepts" are classical mechanics, relativity, electricity, quantum mechanics, and statistical mechanics.

Chester, Primer of Quantum Mechanics. This does have problem sets, but it's not really a standalone QM textbook, but more of a supplement for students who are wondering what it's all about.

Doughty, Lagrangian Interaction: An Introduction to Relativistic Symmetry in Electrodynamics and Gravitation . A broad survey of relativistic symmetry, with lots of historical asides and interesting nuggets of information.

Mattuck, A Guide to Feynman Diagrams in the Many-Body Problem.

Veltman, Diagrammatica

Pais, Subtle Is the Lord. Scientific biography of Einstein.

Penrose, The Road to Reality.

Frankel, Gravitational Curvature. A little monograph on the beauty of GR math. Even the printing of the equations on the page is very pretty.
 
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Here's one more vote for Mr.Tompkins...

Fermat's Last Theorem - Simon Singh
 
And one more vote for Simon's Singh's Fermat's last theorem!
 
mathlete said:
FLOP - Feynman

Quite ironic...
 
Timothy Ferris' books usually have a nice content about astronomy and astrophysics.
i read the whole she bang, or something like that.
it was my second popular science book, and it was better than my first reading which was stephen hawking's best seller.
 
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The book is about 30 years old now, but Davies' "The Forces of Nature" was an entertaining read.
 
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neutrino said:
Quite ironic...
The only reason I listed it is because it seems that the prevailing opinion in this thread (https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=75000) is that it's no good as a textbook.

Thanks to everyone who's posted suggestions!
 
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mathlete said:
The only reason I listed it is because it seems that the prevailing opinion in this thread (https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=75000) is that it's no good as a textbook.

err...I meant that the name of such a successful set of books has been shortened to word that means 'Failure'.
 
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Cosmos by Carl Sagan (somewhat outdated, but still a great read)
 
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Oy, I didn't mean to turn your list into a relativity book list :p

The mention of Davies reminds me that he wrote a neat, cheap https://www.amazon.com/dp/0412579006/?tag=pfamazon01-20 that I think was meant more as a refresher or quick read than a textbook. Unfortunately, the publisher has since jacked up the price.

I'd also add Fermi's Thermodynamics.
 
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In Search of Schrödinger's Cat - John Gribbin
 
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This book was more about history than about math, but it was still a good read:

The Calculus Wars
by Jason Bardi
 
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Sometimes biographies are good too. For example, The End of the Certain World is a biography about Max Born and talks about the development of quantum mechanics. More math related, but still interesting, is Prime Obsession by John Derbyshire. It talks about the Riemann zeta function.
 
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"Lonely Hearts of the Cosmos" by Dennis Overbye is a pretty entertaining book, with lots of anecdotes and personal insights into the characters of the astronomers and physicists of the 20th C.
 
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I don't know if this is a popular (as in 'well-known') book, but David Malin's "A Guide to Stars, Nebulae and Galaxies" (or something like that) was the one that got me really interested. It was my first exposure to pop-sci, and more importantly, science (the stuff at school was something that I had commit to memory than understand). It was only after reading that book did I realize that there was more to the universe than the solar system and a few galaxies. The images by Akira Fujji blew me away!
 
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neutrino said:
I don't know if this is a popular (as in 'well-known') book, but David Malin's "A Guide to Stars, Nebulae and Galaxies" (or something like that) was the one that got me really interested. It was my first exposure to pop-sci, and more importantly, science (the stuff at school was something that I had commit to memory than understand). It was only after reading that book did I realize that there was more to the universe than the solar system and a few galaxies. The images by Akira Fujji blew me away!
David is a hell of a nice guy, as well as a very talented astrophotographer. He and Paul Murdin wrote a book call "Colours of the Stars" that got me obsessed with astrophotography with color film. Another book that inspired me was Hans Vehrenberg's "Atlas of Deep-Sky Splendors".
 
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Yes, I agree from the earlier post, Bill Bryson's A Brief History of Nearly Everything was a very good read.

Also, I can think of the title, but it was a silver colored book about the patent war which existed over the invention of the LASER. Also very good.

I know there are a lot more that I would like to add to the list, but will wait until I can compile a list.
 

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