Best intro physics (electricity and magnetism) for freshman

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for introductory physics textbooks, specifically focusing on electricity and magnetism (E&M) and mechanics. Participants share their experiences with various texts and express preferences based on their learning needs and backgrounds.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions a college physics professor's preference for Halliday Resnik's Fundamentals of Physics, specifically the 3rd edition, suggesting that newer editions may have issues.
  • Another participant recommends Kleppner and Kolenkow's 'An Introduction to Mechanics' for mechanics and Purcell's 'Electricity and Magnetism' for E&M, citing their strong reputations.
  • A question is raised about the necessity of mastering mechanics before studying electricity, with one participant affirming its importance due to foundational concepts like kinematics and conservation of energy.
  • Several participants emphasize the benefit of taking Calculus 3 concurrently with reading Purcell to enhance understanding.
  • One participant reflects on their experience with mechanics, noting that while they have covered kinematics and rotations, their course may differ in content depth compared to semester systems.
  • A participant expresses ownership of multiple editions of Halliday's Fundamentals of Physics and suggests the Feynman Lectures for deeper knowledge.
  • Another participant mentions a recommendation for Kip, indicating a positive impression so far.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of certain textbooks, particularly Purcell and Kleppner & Kolenkow, but there is no consensus on the necessity of mastering mechanics before moving to E&M, as opinions vary on the importance of foundational knowledge.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note differences in course content based on academic systems (quarter vs. semester), which may affect the depth of mechanics knowledge before transitioning to E&M.

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I took a college physics course (Mechanics) at a CC, and my physics prof was notoriously known to be one of the best... many of the students transferred to Berkeley and say that he is one of the best they have taken. He said that his two favorite book are: Halliday Resnik: Fundamentals of Physics EDITION 3... he said edition 3 was the best and the new authors for the 9th and 10 edition messed up the book... the 3rd edition is from the 70's i think and I found it to be pretty good (although it's my first physics textbook and I have no benchmark). He also said one of the Tipler physics textbook was good and had notoriously challenging problems.

Can you give me advice on which physics book I should get if I want to learn about electricity and magnetism and maybe a bit more on mechanics? I would like a book that has challenging problems and very detailed information...
 
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For mechanics I always recommend 'An Introduction to Mechanics' by Kleppner and Kolenkow. For E&M I'd recommend 'Electricity and Magnetism' by Purcell. They're both excellent books that have a great reputation for very good reasons.
 
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QuantumCurt said:
For mechanics I always recommend 'An Introduction to Mechanics' by Kleppner and Kolenkow. For E&M I'd recommend 'Electricity and Magnetism' by Purcell. They're both excellent books that have a great reputation for very good reasons.
do you think it is necessary for me to conquer mechanics before moving onto electricity?
 
Yes, I think so. Things like the kinematics of motion, forces, and the conservation of energy are covered in classical mechanics, and it's important to know these topics well in E&M.
 
I second Purcell and K&K, but will say that taking Calculus 3 concurrently while you're reading Purcell is a big help. That's what I'm doing right now, and I don't know if I'd be getting as much our of the book if I wasn't taking the calculus class at the same time.

Also the cool thing about taking Mechanics first is that you master Newton's Laws, which don't go away when you learn E&M. Plus K&K is just fun. If you've already been through mechanics, K&K is a book you could work through over the summer.
 
Cake said:
I second Purcell and K&K, but will say that taking Calculus 3 concurrently while you're reading Purcell is a big help. That's what I'm doing right now, and I don't know if I'd be getting as much our of the book if I wasn't taking the calculus class at the same time.

Also the cool thing about taking Mechanics first is that you master Newton's Laws, which don't go away when you learn E&M. Plus K&K is just fun. If you've already been through mechanics, K&K is a book you could work through over the summer.
well I did do kinematics... all the way up to rotations but i go to a quarter system CC, so I think we might have a bit of content kids at semester systems cover in their mechanics class. I know the forces, momentums, energies, and rototations, but there is a lot to my book that we didnt touch (like optics and waves... although we did simple harmonic motion)
 
I own most of the Fundamentals of Physics editions by Halliday and they are all good...but if you are interested in a more deep knowledge about the topics presented there the classical Feynman lectures are the best
 
A person here recommended me Kip. So far I liked it.
 

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