Bijective Mapping of Cartesian Products: X^{m} \times X^{n} to X^{m + n}?

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The discussion revolves around finding a bijective map from the Cartesian product of two sets, \(X^{m} \times X^{n}\), to \(X^{m+n}\). Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of these mathematical concepts.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of \(X^{m}\) and \(X^{n}\), and how to interpret the Cartesian product \(X^{m} \times X^{n}\). There is an exploration of how to construct tuples from these sets and the implications for bijective mapping.

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Some participants have begun to articulate their understanding of the problem, suggesting potential mappings and questioning the definitions involved. There is acknowledgment of the need for formal proof of bijection, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are encouraged to clarify definitions and assumptions regarding the terms used in the problem, which may be contributing to initial confusion.

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Homework Statement

Find a bijective map g : X^{m} \times X^{n} \rightarrow X^{m + n}

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I don't even know where to begin. How would I map X^{m} \times X^{n} in the first place? How could I map X^{m + n}?
 
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It's a simple question. The only reason I can see that you would have a problem is that you don't know what the terms mean. What does X^m mean? What does (X^m)x(X^n) mean? Start looking up the definitions and state them here and I'll try and help.
 
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It's a simple question. The only reason I can see that you would have a problem is that you don't know what the terms mean. What does X^m mean? What does (X^m)x(X^n) mean? Start looking up the definitions and state them here and I'll try and help.

I think that (X^{m}) \times (X^{n}) means the cartesian product between the m-tuples of the set X, and the n-tuples of X. So it would be (x_{1}, x_{2}, \cdots, x_{m}) and (x_{1}, x_{2}, \cdots, x_{n})? So the cartesian product of the two would be (if m < n) (x_{1}, x_{2}, \cdots, x_{m}, x_{m + 1}, \cdots, x_{n})?
 
QuantumP7 said:
I think that (X^{m}) \times (X^{n}) means the cartesian product between the m-tuples of the set X, and the n-tuples of X. So it would be (x_{1}, x_{2}, \cdots, x_{m}) and (x_{1}, x_{2}, \cdots, x_{n})? So the cartesian product of the two would be (if m < n) (x_{1}, x_{2}, \cdots, x_{m}, x_{m + 1}, \cdots, x_{n})?

Good so far. So (X^m)x(X^n) is all of the (m+n)-tuples like (x1,x2,...xm,x_m+1,...,x_m+n). You want to split that into an m-tuple (in X^m) and an n-tuple (in X^n). How about making the m-tuple (x1...xm) and the n-tuple (x_m+1...x+_m+n)? Does that define a bijection? I think it does. It's not the only one, but you only need one. Do you see why it works?
 
That makes perfect sense! Thank you so much!

So, the X^{m + n} would just be the X^{m} and X^{n} together? If so, I can definitely see a bijection between them!
 
QuantumP7 said:
That makes perfect sense! Thank you so much!

So, the X^{m + n} would just be the X^{m} and X^{n} together? If so, I can definitely see a bijection between them!

Yes, pretty much. You might want to think about how you would formally prove it's a bijection if needed. But seeing how it works is good start.
 
Ok, I get it! Thank you soooooo much!
 

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