Binding energy calculation of a nucleus

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the binding energy of the isotope 11B, focusing on the steps and reasoning involved in the calculation process. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of binding energy, including its relation to nuclear forces, while also addressing the conversion of units and the validity of the calculated results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their calculation steps for determining the binding energy of 11B, including the use of mass values for protons and neutrons.
  • The participant questions whether the binding energy calculated in joules should be converted to kilograms before further calculations.
  • Another participant suggests that the calculated binding energy appears significantly higher than expected based on known values, indicating a potential error in the calculation.
  • There is a suggestion that dividing the binding energy by the atomic number might yield a more reasonable value, though this is also questioned.
  • A participant advises that the original question may be better suited for a different section of the forum dedicated to homework questions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the correctness of the binding energy calculation, with one participant indicating that the result seems excessively high compared to known values. There is no consensus on the validity of the calculation or the appropriate steps to take next.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of unit conversions and the potential need to clarify assumptions regarding mass values and binding energy calculations. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the subject matter among participants.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about nuclear physics, particularly those interested in binding energy calculations and the associated theoretical concepts.

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Hello,

I'd appreciate feedback on my calculation of binding energy, just wanted to check if I'm on the right track w/ regards to calculation steps (and thought process).

I'll try to be as clear as possible, please give me input if there's some notations / steps I should correct and keep in mind I have limited knowledge on the subject.


Homework Statement


Basically I want to calculate the binding energy per nucleus of the isotope 11B in MeV.

Binding energy of the nucleus, which is the energy keeping the protons and neutrons together, thus the energy needed to break apart the "bonds" between the p+'s and n0's.
(in terms of force notation, would this be the strong nuclear force?)


Data given:

11B: m = 11,0093 amu (Z = 5) (Z = # of p+ (I assume, since the # of p+ relates to the "iso" part of isotope))


mass/proton = 1,007276 amu
mass/neutron = 1,008665 amu


Homework Equations



∆m = (sum of protons and neutrons) - (measured mass of the isotope)

E=mC2

binding energy = ∆m·C2

The Attempt at a Solution



11B ∑m = 5p+ * 1,007275 amu + 6n0 * 1,008665 amu = 11,08837 amu (the unbound system calculated mass)

11B m = 11,0093 amu (measured somehow)


∆m = 11,08837 - 11,0093 = 0,07907 amu

Binding energy = 0,07907 amu * (3E8 m/s)^2 = 7,1163E15 J ( is it safe to say this is joules kg·m^2/s^2 ?) or do I need to convert amu's into Kg's first?

Assuming I get the result in J I continue to convert into MeV:

1 J = 6,24E18 eV = 6,24E12 MeV

MeV: 7,1163E15*J * 6,24E12 MeV/J = 4,44E28 MeV

This seems to me like a LOT of energy, how can I best evaluate my answer? Does this amount of energy seem like a reasonable amount? Can I relate it to the strong nuclear force?

Thanks.
 
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I looked up some binding energy values, and they all lay in quite a different interval. That value I got has to be horrendously off course.

Maybe I should divide by the atom number, but then again I would still get a pretty crazy value.
 
I think you're more likely to get a response to this in the physics sections for homework questions (don't ask me where!). I don't think you can post the same question twice though, you may like to ask a moderator to transfer it, perhaps.
 
ellynx said:
do I need to convert amu's into Kg's first?

Yes.

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