Binomial probability, similar to lottery problems.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the probabilities of scoring 0 to 5 points when drawing counters from a bag containing 10 green and 20 red counters without replacement. The correct approach involves using combinations to determine the number of ways to draw a specific number of green counters and the corresponding number of red counters. The total number of ways to draw five counters from thirty is calculated using the combination formula. The final probabilities are derived by dividing the favorable outcomes by the total outcomes.

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  • Understanding of binomial probability concepts
  • Familiarity with combinations (nCr) and permutations (nPr)
  • Basic knowledge of probability theory
  • Ability to perform calculations involving factorials
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  • Study the concept of combinations and how to apply the formula nCr in probability problems
  • Learn about the differences between drawing with and without replacement in probability
  • Explore the application of binomial distribution in real-world scenarios
  • Investigate similar problems involving distinguishable groups, such as lottery odds
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Homework Statement


An opaque bag contains 10 green counters, and 20 red ones. One counter is drawn at random and not replaced: green scores one, red scores zero. Five counters are drawn.

Find the probability of scoring 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 points.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I found it pretty straighforward to work out with replacement, as it is just the simple binomial probability. But when the counters aren't replaced, surely the order counts, so i tried replacing nCr with nPr though this gave me the completely wrong answer. i know this resembles the lottery problem, but i don't understand what to do when there are only 2 distinguishable groups.
 
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If you score n points, that means you drew n green and 5-n red counters. What you want to do is figure out the number of ways you can do that and divide by the total number of ways you can draw five items from thirty.
 

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