Blackbody fraction of Radiation

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The problem involves determining the fraction of energy radiated by the sun in the visible spectrum, specifically between 350 nm and 700 nm, assuming a surface temperature of 5800 K. The context relates to blackbody radiation and the application of relevant equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relevance of the Stefan-Boltzmann law and the need for the Planck's law function to integrate over the specified wavelength range. There are questions about the integration process and concerns about obtaining a zero result, which suggests a potential misunderstanding or error in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the integration process and the necessity of using the correct functions. There is an ongoing exploration of the integration limits and the implications of the results, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct approach or outcome.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the integration of the energy density function and its conversion to the appropriate variables. There is mention of difficulties in formatting equations and a lack of clarity on the assumptions being made in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Determine the fraction of the energy radiated by the sun in the visible region of the spectrum (350 nm to 700 nm). (Assume the sun's surface temperature is 5800 K.)


Homework Equations


R=\sigmaT^{4}

for some reason i can't make the sigma come down, but it's a constant=5.67x10^{-8}W/m^{2}K^{4}

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure if the blackbody radiation equation is relevant, but I'm not sure where to begin with this.
 
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patapat said:

Homework Statement


Determine the fraction of the energy radiated by the sun in the visible region of the spectrum (350 nm to 700 nm). (Assume the sun's surface temperature is 5800 K.)


Homework Equations


R=\sigmaT^{4}

for some reason i can't make the sigma come down, but it's a constant=5.67x10^{-8}W/m^{2}K^{4}

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure if the blackbody radiation equation is relevant, but I'm not sure where to begin with this.


This formula (the Stefan-Boltzmann law) you gave gives the intensity radiated at all wavelength. so it's useless for your question. You need the function I(\lambda,T) which you will have to integrate over the range of wavelength provided (and you could check that integrating from 0 to infinity would reproduce the SB law).

Hope this helps
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck's_law_of_black_body_radiation

Then you perform the integration between 350 and 700, then compare the result with the integration from 0 to infinity.

Hint: That last result is also know as a "theorem", what is it called and how does it look like?
 
I'm working this same problem right now, and have done everything suggested (and then some), but even using maple to integrate I keep getting that the definite integral comes out to approx. 0 - 0 = 0. This is obviously wrong since more than zero energy gets radiated in the visible portion.

Converting the energy density function to 8pi*hc(kT/hc)^4*int(x^3/(e^x-1)) using
x = hc/lambda*kT, Maple gives me the antiderivative [of int(x^3/(e^x-1))] to be -1/4x^4 + x^3*ln(e^x-1) + 3x^2*polylog(2,e^x) - 6x*polylog(3,e^x) + 6*polylog(4,e^x). Converting 350 nm and 700 nm to values of x and evaluating gives the 0 answer.

Can anyone point out what retarded mistake I must be making? Also sorry about typing the formulas out like that but I haven't figured out how to format it yet.
 

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