How would I calculate how close a ship can approach the sun?

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The discussion revolves around calculating how close a ship can approach the sun, focusing on the mathematical modeling of the ship as a blackbody and the energy balance with solar radiation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster considers modeling the ship as a spherical object and applying the Stefan-Boltzmann Law to compare radiated and incoming energy. They question the adequacy of using the inverse square law for intensity versus a more complex integration approach.

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Participants have raised various considerations regarding shielding for life and electronics, with some focusing on the materials and absorption rates. There is acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of the Stefan-Boltzmann Law, with references to external resources provided for additional context.

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There is mention of the van Allen belt and the implications of radiation exposure, indicating that the discussion may involve constraints related to safety and material properties.

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It's not a piece of homework, I'm doing a project and I've been wondering how I may be able to show it mathematically. I've covered the material before but it was a long long time ago...

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A-Thinking about modelling my "ship" as a spherical ball of radius, 1m.
B- Use Stefan-Boltzmann Law to determine how much energy is radiated, under the assumption it's a blackbody, at its maximum temperature.
C- Then assuming the radiated energy is equal to the incoming energy from the sun.
D- Calculating the distance required for these two values to be equal.

I feel like it's fairly hand wavey but it doesn't have to be particularly accurate, just a ball park figure. But for D, is it sufficient to use the inverse square law for intensity, or would I have to be more rigorous. As in, treating every point on the surface of the sun as a point source and integrating... Probably too complicated for what I'm looking for.

Anywho. Any help would be appreciated and thank you in advance.
 
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I guess this will be basically a matter of shielding and what has to be shielded: life or just electronics? If it is life, then even leaving the van Allen belt couldn't be said safe. The preferred material for such a shielding is water, so I would look for absorption rates of water, and don't forget all kind of particles and radiation.
 
fresh_42 said:
I guess this will be basically a matter of shielding and what has to be shielded: life or just electronics? If it is life, then even leaving the van Allen belt couldn't be said safe. The preferred material for such a shielding is water, so I would look for absorption rates of water, and don't forget all kind of particles and radiation.

I'm just considering the pure structure of the ship as opposed to having any lifeforms aboard and for the time being I'm focusing on IR and Visible wavelengths
 
The Wikipedia article on the Stefan-Boltzmann Law has a section titled Effective Temperature of the Earth which you will find informative. :wink:
 
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gneill said:
The Wikipedia article on the Stefan-Boltzmann Law has a section titled Effective Temperature of the Earth which you will find informative. :wink:
Ahhh that's absolutely perfect. Thank you ;)
 

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