Blackbody Radiation - Peak wavelength

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The problem involves analyzing the Planck blackbody spectrum to determine the peak wavelength of radiation emitted by a blackbody at a given temperature. The original poster attempts to show that the peak occurs at a specific relationship between wavelength and temperature, as described by Wien's Displacement Law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss converting the Planck function to a wavelength spectral distribution and the implications of working in frequency space versus wavelength space. There are attempts to solve a transcendental equation derived from the differentiation of the Planck spectrum.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to solve for the variable x, with some participants suggesting iterative methods and others questioning the steps taken. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but guidance on using numerical methods and Taylor series is provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the need for conversions and the nature of the equations involved. There is an emphasis on the iterative nature of the solution process and the precision required in applying Wien's law.

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Homework Statement


The Planck blackbody spectrum is given by

u(ω,t)=\frac{ħω^3}{π^2c^3(e^{βħω}-1)}

Show that the peak of the Planck spectrum for a blackbody at a temperature T occurs at the wavelength

λ_{max}T=0.29

where T is in Kelvin and λmax is in cm.

Homework Equations


\frac{d(ω,T)}{dω}=0

The Attempt at a Solution


So using the equation above I get down to:

(3-βħω)(e^{βħω})-3=0

This is a transcendental equation. I said:

x=βħω

I've tried using the bisection method to solve but my answer doesn't match up with what it should as from the Wien Displacement Law it should be 0.29 for λ in cm. If anyone could help explain the solving for x, I would greatly appreciate it.
 
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This one is somewhat complicated by the fact that you first need to convert the Planck function to a wavelength spectral distribution before you find the maximum in the wavelength spectral distribution (density) function. You get a different answer if you try to work the problem (finding the maximum) with the distribution (density) function in frequency space.
 
If its converted to the wavelength I got.

x=\frac{hc}{λkT}

5(e^x-1)=xe^x

Which is a similar equation to solve. Where would I go from here?
 
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## e^{-x}=1-x/5 ##. Numeric solution with x not equal to zero. x=4.95 approximately.
 
I don't understand how you solved for x. I know normally with an exponential, a natural log would be involved.
 
## e^{-x} ## is going to be nearly zero. On a first iteration, ## x=5 ##. Taylor series can get you about 2 or 3 decimal places in one or two iterations. Otherwise iterate ##x=5(1-e^{-x} ) ## without any Taylor series. That's probably much quicker.
 
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Additional comment: You already did the hardest part. Using iterative method (see post #6), you can start with ##x=5 ## on the right side and I think you get ## x=4.95 ## on the left. Take this 4.95 and insert it into the right side, and I think you get close to 4 decimal place accuracy for your answer. This is the number you need to write out Wien's law with extreme precision. (## h ## ,## c ##, and ## k_b ## are already known. Plug it in and you should have the right answer.)
 
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