Block sliding down an inclined plane

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The problem involves a block sliding down an inclined plane at a 30-degree angle, taking three times longer to slide down than to fall freely the same vertical distance. The goal is to determine the coefficient of friction affecting the block's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss kinematic equations and Newton's second law, considering the effects of friction and the geometry of the incline. Questions arise about the relationship between the time taken to slide down the incline versus falling freely, and the necessary conditions for the coefficient of friction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of the problem, including the need for kinematic equations and free body diagrams. Some guidance has been offered regarding breaking down the problem into simpler components, but no consensus has been reached on a specific approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including assumptions about friction and the specific distances involved. There is mention of ignoring air friction and the need to clarify the relationship between the distances on the incline and the vertical drop.

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Homework Statement



A block takes 3 times as long to slide down an inclined plane that makes an angle of 30 degrees as it does to fall freely through the same vertical distance. Determine the coefficient of friction.

Homework Equations



F=μN

The Attempt at a Solution



I do not know where to start.
 
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Now throw in some kinematic equations.
 
vf=vi+at
vf^2=vi^2+2as
d=vit+.5at^2

Now how do i solve this problem
 
Now Newton's second and free body diagram. Also ignore air friction.
 
How long does it take a block to fall a distance x freely?

How long does it take a block to slide a distance y down a 30 degree slope? (With friction)

What should the distance y be to make the vertical distance equal to x?

What does the coefficient of static friction need to be to make the time take 3 times as long on the slope?
 
The problem you asked can be a bit tricky. Try solving this problem first:
(You should be able to solve this problem before you can solve the one you asked:)

How many times longer does it take a block to move a vertical distance down while sliding down a frictionless inclined plane that makes an angle of 30 degrees (with the horizontal) than it takes to move the same vertical distance when falling freely?

(I don't know if I worded that question clearly, but it's basically the same problem except I told you that the coefficient of friction is zero, and I am asking you how many times longer does it take)
 
Seahawks - have you made an attempt at this problem?
 
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