Blowing up hydrogen and oxygen falls under what?

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The discussion revolves around the creation of a propulsion system using hydrogen as fuel, specifically focusing on the energy produced from the combustion of hydrogen and oxygen. Participants explore the fields of study relevant to this topic, including chemistry and rocket science, while addressing practical calculations related to energy output and propulsion mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in calculating the energy derived from the combustion of 1 mol of hydrogen (H2) with oxygen (O2) and seeks guidance on the relevant field of study.
  • Another participant suggests looking up enthalpy values of H2, O2, and H2O to theoretically estimate the energy output, assuming familiarity with enthalpy.
  • A different participant notes that hydrogen is used in existing propulsion systems, such as the Space Shuttle Main Engine, and mentions the use of hydrogen in fuel cells for non-explosive energy production.
  • Concerns about the implications of discussing hydrogen propulsion are raised, with one participant expressing strong opposition to the idea of supporting potentially harmful applications.
  • There is a mention of the need for calculations related to trajectories and distances in the context of propulsion, indicating a desire for practical guidance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to the problem, with some advocating for existing propulsion technologies while others focus on theoretical calculations. Disagreement exists regarding the implications of hydrogen use and the appropriateness of the inquiry.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference enthalpy and energy calculations without fully resolving the mathematical steps involved. There is uncertainty regarding the definitions and applications of terms like enthalpy and entropy, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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A hearty hello to all you admirable brainiacs. As this is my first post here it not coincidentally asks advice. I'm interested in creating a propulsion system fueled by hydrogen. I understand that hydrogen mixed with oxygen is explosive, but I need to calculate the exact amount of energy which can be derived from named explosion. I don't know what field of study besides mathematics contains the answer to my quandary. Is it rocket science that I need to look into? Or is it chemistry? I have a feeling it is both, but I don't know under what heading to look.

A more practical explanation of my question: If I had 1 mol of H2. (Hydrogen gas), how much energy can be produced in combustion? And then from energy how much kinetic energy can be produced on an object weighing x.

If my question is not clear please say so. Thanks in advance,

The Third Anti-Christ.:devil:
 
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AntiChrist said:
A hearty hello to all you admirable brainiacs. As this is my first post here it not coincidentally asks advice. I'm interested in creating a propulsion system fueled by hydrogen. I understand that hydrogen mixed with oxygen is explosive, but I need to calculate the exact amount of energy which can be derived from named explosion. I don't know what field of study besides mathematics contains the answer to my quandary. Is it rocket science that I need to look into? Or is it chemistry? I have a feeling it is both, but I don't know under what heading to look.

A more practical explanation of my question: If I had 1 mol of H2. (Hydrogen gas), how much energy can be produced in combustion? And then from energy how much kinetic energy can be produced on an object weighing x.

If my question is not clear please say so. Thanks in advance,

The Third Anti-Christ.:devil:

I WON'T SUPPORT YOUR TERRORIST WAYS

(or do you homework for you, sly)
 
If you have 1 mol of H2, you need 1/2 mol O2. Look up the enthalpy values of H2, O2, and H2O, and you can calculate how much energy you can theoretically get (I assume here you've dealt with enthalpy).

It's not the best estimate, but it's really simple
 
AntiChrist said:
A hearty hello to all you admirable brainiacs. As this is my first post here it not coincidentally asks advice. I'm interested in creating a propulsion system fueled by hydrogen. I understand that hydrogen mixed with oxygen is explosive, but I need to calculate the exact amount of energy which can be derived from named explosion. I don't know what field of study besides mathematics contains the answer to my quandary. Is it rocket science that I need to look into? Or is it chemistry? I have a feeling it is both, but I don't know under what heading to look.

A more practical explanation of my question: If I had 1 mol of H2. (Hydrogen gas), how much energy can be produced in combustion? And then from energy how much kinetic energy can be produced on an object weighing x.
This is a standard chemistry problem, and yes hydrogen can be explosively combustible, but it is the source of energy in LH2/LOX (liquid) propuslion systems like the Space Shuttle Main Engine, which actually uses a hydrogen rich mixture to increase specific impluse.

There is not need to develop a hydrogen propulsion since it already exists. Fuel cells also use hydrogen oxidation, but in a non-explosive process.
 
I WON'T SUPPORT YOUR TERRORIST WAYS

(or do you homework for you, sly)

Erroneous on both accounts!

(I assume here you've dealt with enthalpy).

Do you mean enthropy? I've never delt with enthalpy, but I'll look into it.
Fuel cells also use hydrogen oxidation, but in a non-explosive process.

True, but it is hard to build a rocket like propulsion system with electricity. (Correct me if I'm wrong). I think I need either the LH2 or the hydrogen combustion. But I must be able to calculate trajectories and distances, which is why I am asking guidance.

Thanks to everyone except Pythagorean,
 

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