What is causing blue air bubbles to appear on the sand at the beach?

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The discussion revolves around the appearance of blue air bubbles on the sand at the beach, with participants speculating about their origin and nature. The conversation includes references to marine biology, specifically the Portuguese Man 'o War, and touches on the potential dangers associated with it.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the blue bubbles are related to the Portuguese Man 'o War, also known as the Blue Bottle, which is a colonial organism rather than a jellyfish.
  • One participant emphasizes the painful nature of encounters with the Portuguese Man 'o War, sharing personal experiences of stings and their effects.
  • There is a discussion about the gas bubbles containing carbon monoxide, with questions raised about its role in the organism's buoyancy and metabolic processes.
  • Some participants express a desire to preserve the organisms, while others express revulsion and concern over their hazardous nature.
  • A participant introduces a technical perspective on the hydrodynamics of the Portuguese Man 'o War, suggesting advanced biological adaptations.

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Participants generally agree that the blue bubbles are likely related to the Portuguese Man 'o War, but there are differing views on the implications of its presence, its biological functions, and the associated dangers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the carbon monoxide's role and the overall impact of the organism.

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Some claims about the biological functions and dangers of the Portuguese Man 'o War are based on personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, which may not encompass all scientific perspectives. The discussion also includes references to various jellyfish species and their respective dangers, highlighting the complexity of marine biology.

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Hi all,
Not sure it's the right place to ask but I found these while walking on the beach, they seemed to have come from the sea. They "explode" if you walk on them.
Any ideas what this could be?

https://ibb.co/fuL0gF
https://ibb.co/ikrUaa
https://ibb.co/hj3LgF

Thanks,

Audry
 
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Could be Portuguese Man 'o War (aka "blue bottle") jellyfish.
 
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Don't pick one up. Particularly do not touch the 'tentacle' like thing. It is VERY painful, even for long time after the bladder washes up on the beach.
 
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Oh, I would love to try and preserve one of these! Beautiful.
 
Audry said:
Any ideas what this could be?

Baluncore said:
Audry; welcome to PF.
I am certain it is a Portuguese Man 'o War or Blue Bottle

Yup ... in Australia these are the blue bottle jellyfish ... nasty little beasts ... have been stung by them ... very painful

https://australianmuseum.net.au/bluebottle

Dave
 
What is maybe interesting is the fact that the gas bubbles contain up to 12% of Carbon monoxide which is synthesized by a specialized organ from serine.
 
Do they use that CO in their metabolic processes? or is it the product of such processes to be exuded?

12 % in humans would be fatal for sure.
 
Fervent Freyja said:
Oh, I would love to try and preserve one of these! Beautiful.

Those darn things cause in me intense and extreme revulsion. They're a real hazard at the beaches around Miami where i grew up.
When in the water their tentacles dangle down a couple feet to trap unfortunate little fish. If one just brushes you it deposits a toxin that gives excruciating pain in a line where it touched. It raises welts and burns for hours.
I remember as a kid getting a mild hit just once. I'll never forget the sight of a lady who didn't know what they are and swum up under one , writhing in pain trying to pick it off her arms. . The lifeguard was wiping her down with ammonia. It had got her upper arms shoulder and back. She was in serious pain.

What a horrid death for its prey.
http://www.norbertwu.com/nwp/behaviors-themes/animals_feeding_web/originals/8562.JPG
manowar.jpg


"Did He who made the Lamb make thee ? "
One of His mistakes , i'd say.

old jim
 
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jim hardy said:
"Did He who made the Lamb make thee ? "

Those are Tygers, I believe.
 
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litup said:
Do they use that CO in their metabolic processes? or is it the product of such processes to be exuded?
They rise and fall by inflating or deflating the float. I believe that the CO is produced to provide the buoyancy.
See; http://jeb.biologists.org/content/jexbio/37/4/698.full.pdf
The Source Of Carbon Monoxide In The Float Of The Portuguese Man-Of-War, Physalia Physalis. By Jonathan B. Wittenberg. (April 1960). Conclusion 5: "It is suggested that carbon monoxide secretion serves to inflate the float of Physalia and that carbon monoxide is later slowly replaced by air through diffusion and exchange".

The “Portuguese man o' war” or Blue Bottle can be painful but is only very rarely fatal.
I believe a bigger mistake than the Blue Bottle was the Box Jellyfish or "Sea Wasp" that kills many people each year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_jellyfish#Danger_to_humans

But only a devil could have conceived the "Irukandji jellyfish", Carukia barnesi, et al. It is the most venomous jellyfish known, is usually invisible with a medusa only 5mm across, but has fine tentacles about a metre long. Luckily there are few people swimming in Northern Australian waters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irukandji_jellyfish
 
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Just happened across this when surfing the web for hydrodynamics.
Those bubbles on the sand are certainly advanced technology.

Why does it have a sail? Because it is a trawler.

“Hydrodynamics of sailing of the Portuguese man-of-war Physalia physalis”
By G. Iosilevskii and D. Weihs, 15 December 2008.
See, Download the pdf from; http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/6/36/613
 
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