Boeing 747 Engine Power: Realistic or Not?

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The discussion revolves around the power output of a Boeing 747 engine and whether the calculated value based on its thrust and speed is realistic. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical applications in teaching physics concepts related to engine power and vehicle motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the maximum power output of a Boeing 747 based on its thrust and speed, arriving at a value of 324 MW, but expresses skepticism about its realism.
  • Another participant suggests that the maximum thrust is primarily needed during takeoff under specific conditions, implying that the power output may not be necessary during cruising flight.
  • A further contribution notes that for turbofan engines, thrust generation decreases as speed increases, indicating that the maximum thrust may not be achievable at cruising speeds.
  • A later reply indicates that the provided article helped the original poster find more believable values regarding engine power output.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the realism of the calculated power output. There are competing views regarding the conditions under which maximum thrust is required and the operational characteristics of turbofan engines.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights assumptions regarding engine performance at different flight phases and the dependency on specific conditions such as altitude and aircraft load. There is also an indication of unresolved questions about the applicability of maximum thrust values in practical scenarios.

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Hi there

I'm writing a problem sheet for a class that I teach and I'm trying to use as many real world examples as I can. I'm writing simple questions about the power output of engines that are moving vehicles at constant speeds. I've used cars and boats, but now I want to use aircraft.

From information on the internet I've researched that a Boeing 747 has a max thrust of around 1184 kN and a max speed of 274 m/s. This gives me a max power output of 324 MW. Err, I know this is a maximum value and all, but I don't believe the result. To my simple physics teacher's mind it seems far too big. Can someone give me a hint if my value is reasonable?
 
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You might want to read this article:
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/propulsion/q0195.shtml

The max. rated thrust of a jet engine is required when the plane is taking off fully laden under adverse conditions (i.e., hot day, airfield at high altitude, low humidity, no headwind, etc.) Once the plane has climbed to cruising altitude and accelerated to cruising speed, only a fraction of the rated thrust is required to maintain level flight.
 
Not just not required, but also not possible. For a turbofan, the ability to generate thrust drops as speed increases.
 
Thanks for the link. I get much more believable values now!
 

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