Is a Larger DC Motor Needed for Low Wind Speed Power Generation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a DC motor for power generation in low wind speed conditions, particularly focusing on the selection of appropriate motors and rotor designs for a DIY project. Participants explore the challenges of starting torque and the efficiency of different rotor types, including the savonius rotor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the specifications needed for DC motors when used as generators, particularly regarding starting torque and the force required to initiate movement.
  • Another participant critiques the savonius rotor, claiming it is inefficient for power extraction despite its initial effectiveness at low wind speeds.
  • A suggestion is made to explore a hybrid rotor design combining savonius and darrieus styles to improve performance once the rotor is in motion.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of cheap DC motors, including friction and starting torque, which may hinder the ability to generate power from low wind speeds.
  • Participants discuss the potential need for a smaller generator or a motor with higher starting torque to overcome initial inertia.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of measuring starting torque by applying a force to the motor shaft, indicating a practical approach to understanding motor specifications.
  • There is a reference to the historical context of vertical axis wind turbines and their perceived inferiority compared to horizontal axis designs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of the savonius rotor, with some advocating for its use while others strongly recommend against it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to select a suitable motor and rotor design for the project.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that starting torque values may not be readily available for all motors, complicating the selection process. There is also mention of the need to consider the specific conditions of the project, such as low wind speeds and minimal power requirements.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY renewable energy projects, particularly those focusing on low wind speed power generation, as well as those exploring the technical specifications of DC motors and rotor designs.

  • #31
anorlunda said:
Wind turbines used on boats use a rope tether to anchor the blade during high winds. It's hard to get simpler than that.
So, to restart the turbine in the calm after a storm, the operator should first remove the tether, and then give a turbine blade a push with their hand.

I believe the OP is looking for a less hands-on solution.
 
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  • #32
Those poor bearings!
 
  • #33
Baluncore said:
I believe the OP is looking for a less hands-on solution.
I think you're right. The OP does not want the KISS solution.
 
  • #34
sophiecentaur said:
Those poor bearings!
True, magnetic or axial ?
 
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  • #35
anorlunda said:
I think you're right. The OP does not want the KISS solution.
But a flat battery is not ‘simple’.
 

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