Bond energy between two water molecules

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The discussion revolves around estimating the bond energy between two water molecules in liquid form. The original poster outlines a multi-step approach involving calculations based on the density and molecular weight of water, as well as surface tension considerations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the average distance between water molecules using density and molecular weight but expresses uncertainty about how to begin. Some participants provide a formula for the volume of one molecule, while others seek clarification on terminology related to the molar mass.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of molecular volume, and there is an active inquiry into the correct interpretation of molar mass.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the units of molar mass, with participants discussing the historical context of unit definitions. The original poster has indicated they are not seeking direct answers but rather hints to facilitate their understanding.

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Homework Statement



Estimate the bond energy between two water molcules (liquid) in the following way

A: From the density of water and its molecular weight calculate the average distance between the molecules

B:hence show that there are 10^19 molcules per m^2 of surace

C:from the suraface tension of water, assuming this to be the same as the suraface energy, fine the value of U_0

Homework Equations



N_s ≈ \frac{1}{r_0^2} \\<br /> \frac{1}{4}nU_0N_s \\<br /> \gamma = \frac{F}{L} \\<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



I am stuck straight away on part A. I know the density of water (1000 kg/m^3) and the molecular weight of H2O is 18 but have no idea how these are supposed to help me calculate the average distance between the molecules.

I am not looking for the answer but any hints on where to start would be very much appreciated.
 
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The volume of one molecule (in m^3):
$$
V_1 = \frac {μ}{ρ N_A}
$$
where ## μ = 18×10^3 kg/mole##
## ρ = 10^3 kg/m^3##
## N_A = 6×10^{23} mole^{-1}##
 
GregoryS said:
The volume of one molecule (in m^3):
$$
V_1 = \frac {μ}{ρ N_A}
$$
where ## μ = 18×10^3 kg/mole##
## ρ = 10^3 kg/m^3##
## N_A = 6×10^{23} mole^{-1}##

OK Thank you, what is mu called? (For example rho is density)
 
FaraDazed said:
OK Thank you, what is mu called? (For example rho is density)
I think it's supposed to be the molar mass of water (2xH+1xO = 18). But I believe it should be 18g/mol, the molar unit having been defined in terms of grammes before the old cgs units were replaced by MKS units. So that's 18 10-3 kg/mol, not 18 10+3 kg/mol.
 

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