Book Suggestions: Learn Einstein's General Theory of Relativity

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for books and resources to learn Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, covering various levels from beginner to advanced. Participants share their experiences with different texts and suggest alternatives, including online courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests "Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity" by Øyvind Grøn and Sigbjørn Hervik as a starting point.
  • Another participant argues that Grøn and Hervik may not be suitable for beginners and recommends Carroll's notes on Arxiv instead.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that while both Gron and Hervik and Carroll's notes are valuable, they may not serve well as introductory self-study material for all students.
  • Several participants recommend specific books for self-study, including "Gravity: An Introduction to Einstein's Relativity" by Hartle, "A First Course in General Relativity" by Schutz, and "A General Relativity Workbook" by Moore.
  • One participant mentions enjoying Ben Crowell's books for their presentation style and context-setting for more advanced texts.
  • Another participant suggests considering online courses, specifically mentioning Leonard Susskind's and Alexander Maloney's courses, with a preference for the latter.
  • Some participants discuss the unconventional title of Peter Collier's book "A Most Incomprehensible Thing" and express confusion about its implications for understanding the subject.
  • There is a mention of a quote attributed to Einstein regarding the comprehensibility of the universe, which may relate to the title of Collier's book.
  • One participant suggests "Foster and Nightingale" as a nice introduction, recommending it alongside a more standard text like Carroll's.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the suitability of various texts for beginners, with no consensus on a single best resource. Some participants appreciate certain books while others find them inadequate for introductory learning.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that some recommended texts may not cover all topics comprehensively, and the effectiveness of each resource may vary depending on the reader's background and learning style.

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Can anyone please help me with a good book to read relativity I am currently trying to read from Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity Øyvind Grøn andSigbjørn Hervik
Please I need to learn from basics to top
 
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Gron and Hervik is not really suitable for a first exposure, is my experience. I used Carroll's notes on Arxiv. Highly recommended.
 
I like Gron and Hervik, and I like Carroll's notes,

https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9712019

but I don't either is suitable as introductory self-study material (except for very strong students).

Carroll's book, "An Introduction to General Relativity:Spacetime and Geometry" is much better than his notes, but it is not free.

My personal recommendations (and thus probably different than other folks' recommendations) for self-study are:

1) "Gravity: An Introduction to Einstein's Relativity" by Hartle,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805386629/?tag=pfamazon01-20

2) "A First Course in General Relativity" by Schutz,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521887054/?tag=pfamazon01-20

together with "A Student's Manual for A First Course in General Relativity" by Scott,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1107638577/?tag=pfamazon01-20

3)"A General Relativity Workbook" by Moore,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1891389823/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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I quite enjoyed our own Ben Crowell's books, available from www.lightandmatter.com. They don't go into as much detail, I think, as other titles mentioned here. But I liked their presentation and it helped set context for Carroll and Schutz.

I also liked Einstein's "The Meaning of Relativity". It's rather elderly and a lot of the maths is presented in a rather old fashioned way. But he was trying to convince a lot of hidebound old physicists that he wasn't crazy, and I found that a useful perspective. :wink:
 
Instead of a book, would you consider following a free course that's available online? There's Leonard Susskind's course from Stanford and Alexander Maloney's course from McGill. I preferred the latter.

As for books, some of them are quite formidable for a beginner learning on their own. There are a couple that are more geared toward the novice and will put you in a better position to follow some of the heavyweights on Physics Forums:
o A Most Incomprehensible Thing: Notes Towards a Very Gentle Introduction to the Mathematics of Relativity by Peter Collier
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0957389450/?tag=pfamazon01-20
o The Einstein Theory of Relativity, A Trip to the Fourth Dimension by Lillian Lieber
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1589880447/?tag=pfamazon01-20

The style of Lieber's book is unconventional but I found it to be excellent. Collier's book is a bit odd as it assumes you don't even know calculus and spends a lot of pages going over basics like that.

As usual, some topics are not covered in all the sources, or some may do a particular topic better than the others, so it wouldn't hurt to have more than one available.
 
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Ehm, why shoud I read a book, which promise me that the subject treated by it is incomprehensible. I read books, because I want to understand something!
 
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Ehm, why shoud I read a book, which promise me that the subject treated by it is incomprehensible. I read books, because I want to understand something!

Ha - it is a strange title for a book.
 
At least according to Google, it's a quote by Einstein: "The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible". Whether or not the attribution is sound, I'd guess it's the source of the name.
 
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