Bra-Ket Question: Constructing Langle Alpha & Beta

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The discussion revolves around constructing the bra vectors corresponding to given ket vectors in a three-dimensional vector space spanned by an orthonormal basis. The kets are defined as |\alpha\rangle and |\beta\rangle, and the task involves finding their dual representations in terms of the dual basis.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between kets and bras, particularly focusing on the complex conjugate nature of bras. There are attempts to clarify the process of calculating inner products and the construction of matrices from outer products. Some participants question the interpretation of kets as column vectors and bras as row vectors.

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Several participants have provided insights into the calculations and interpretations of the problem. There is acknowledgment of the correct forms of the bra vectors, and some participants have successfully computed the matrix representation of the operator \hat{A}. However, there is ongoing exploration regarding the hermitian property of the resulting matrix.

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Participants are navigating through the definitions and properties of inner and outer products in the context of quantum mechanics, with specific attention to the implications of complex conjugation and matrix representation. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in the representation of kets and bras within the framework of linear algebra.

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Homework Statement



Consider a three-dimensional vector space spanned by an orthonormal basis |1\rangle, |2 \rangle, |3 \rangle. Kets |\alpha \rangle, |\beta \rangle are given by
|\alpha \rangle = i|1\rangle -2|2 \rangle -i|3\rangle, \qquad |\beta \rangle = i|1\rangle +2 |3\rangle.

part a) Construct \langle \alpha| \text{ and } \langle \beta | (in terms of the dual basis \langle 1|, \langle 2|, \langle 3|).

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I just want to check that I understand this correctly. Is the Bra the row vector that is basically the complex conjugate of the Ket, leading to the inner product? In this case,
\langle \alpha | = -i \langle 1 | -2 \langle 2| +i \langle 3| \qquad \langle \beta | = -i\langle 1| + 2 \langle 3|
 
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Right.
 
Thanks DrClaude. So if I have part a right,
\langle \alpha | = (-i, \, -2, \, i) \quad \text{ and } \quad \langle \beta | = (-i, \, 0, \, 2)

My calculation in the second part should be correct:
\langle \alpha | \beta \rangle = 1 + 2i \quad \text{ and } \quad \langle \beta | \alpha \rangle = 1 - 2i

Then the third part asks:
Find all nine matrix elements of the operator \hat{A} = |\alpha\rangle \langle \beta|, in this basis, and construct the matrix A. Is it hermitian?

How do I go about this? I don't see how to multiply |\alpha\rangle\langle \beta | to get nine elements.
 
Bobbo Snap said:
Then the third part asks:
Find all nine matrix elements of the operator \hat{A} = |\alpha\rangle \langle \beta|, in this basis, and construct the matrix A. Is it hermitian?

How do I go about this? I don't see how to multiply |\alpha\rangle\langle \beta | to get nine elements.

If |\alpha\rangle represents a column vector (3,1) and \langle \beta | a row vector (1,3) in terms of matrix multiplication what should (3,1)x(1,3) give you?
 
In vector terms the product <\alpha||\beta> is the "inner product"- after taking the complex conjugate, multiply corresponding terms and add. If |\alpha>= <a_1, a_2, a_3> and |\beta>= <b_1, b_2, b_3>, then <\alpha||\beta>= a_1b_1^*+ a_2b_2^*+ a_3b_3^*. ("*" is the complex conjugate.)

For the "exterior product", you form the nine products of every member of |\alpha> with every member of <\beta| as a matrix:
|\alpha><\beta|= \begin{bmatrix}a_1b_1^* & a_1b_2^* & a_1b_3^* \\ a_2b_1^* & a_2b_2^* & a_2b_3^* \\ a_3b_1^* & a_3b_2^* & a_3b_3^*\end{bmatrix}
 
Kevin and Ivy beat me to it. I will just stress that kets should be seen as column vectors, not row vectors as you wrote, and bras as their Hermitian conjugate.
 
Thanks for the replies, I wasn't thinking of the Bra as a row vector. After doing the multiplication, I get
\hat{A} = | \alpha \rangle \langle \beta | = <br /> \begin{bmatrix} 1 &amp;0 &amp;2i\\ 2i &amp;0 &amp;-4\\ -1 &amp;0 &amp;-2i \end{bmatrix}
Which is not hermitian as \hat{A} \neq \hat{A}^\dagger. Correct?
 
Bobbo Snap said:
Thanks for the replies, I wasn't thinking of the Bra as a row vector. After doing the multiplication, I get
\hat{A} = | \alpha \rangle \langle \beta | = <br /> \begin{bmatrix} 1 &amp;0 &amp;2i\\ 2i &amp;0 &amp;-4\\ -1 &amp;0 &amp;-2i \end{bmatrix}
Which is not hermitian as \hat{A} \neq \hat{A}^\dagger. Correct?

That looks correct.
 

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