Braking speed and distance traveled

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the braking distance of a car, where the acceleration is not constant but varies with time. The original poster attempts to integrate the acceleration function to find the velocity and distance traveled before the car comes to a stop.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the acceleration function and the implications of the signs in the equations for velocity and distance. Questions arise regarding the correct placement of negative signs and the interpretation of the equations in the context of braking.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formulation of the equations, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the placement of negative signs in the equations, and the discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the concepts involved.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of non-constant acceleration and its effects on velocity and distance, with some uncertainty about the initial conditions and the correct application of kinematic principles.

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Homework Statement


The acceleration of a particular car during braking has magnitude bt, where t is the time in seconds from the instant the car begins braking, and b = 2.2 m/s3 .If the car has an initial speed of 60 m/s , how far does it travel before it stops?

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I know that basic kinematic equations will not work for this equation because acceleration is not constant. Therefore the equations have to be integrated from the given equation of acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution

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when i integrated i got the equations:
a=2.2t

v= 2.2/2 t^2 +60

x= 2.2/6 t^3 +60t

I'm trying to figure out how to isolate for t in order to solve for distance, but when i set the equation for distance equal to zero i ended up getting the wrong answer while solving for t. if someone can point me in the right direction on how to solve for t, i know how to finish the problem solving for distance. i just am unsure about how to get time
 
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Hi Emily081715 and welcome to PF

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Your expression for v says that v increases with time. Is that what happens to a car that is braking?
Also, x is not zero when the car stops. What is zero when that happens?
 
kuruman said:
You expression for v says that v increases with time. Is that what happens to a car that is braking?
should my equations say -60? If that was the case shouldn't my acceleration be negative as well since its braking and slowing down?
Also, if x isn't zero when the car stops, is the final velocity zero ? that would mean i need to set that equation equal to zero to solve for time
 
When t is equal to zero, v = 60 m/s as it should. When t is greater that zero, v starts to decrease. Where should the negative sign go?
 
kuruman said:
When t is equal to zero, v = 60 m/s as it should. When t is greater that zero, v starts to decrease. Where should the negative sign go?
the negative sign goes infront of the 60. making the equation v= 2.2/2t^2- 60t
 
But now when you set t = 0 in your expression, you get zero, not 60 m/s.
 
kuruman said:
But now when you set t = 0 in your expression, you get zero, not 60 m/s.
should it then be infront of 2.2
 
The magnitude of acceleration is positive even when the car is slowing down. The plus and minus sign give you the directional sense of the quantity. If we say the sense of the car's velocity is positive then the sense of the acceleration would be negative.
 
emily081715 said:
should it then be infront of 2.2
Yes. Leave the 60 as you had it. Now can you find the time of travel? It is the same as the time it takes the car to stop.
 
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David Lewis said:
The magnitude of acceleration is positive even when the car is slowing down. The plus and minus sign give you the directional sense of the quantity. If we say the sense of the car's velocity is positive then the sense of the acceleration would be negative.
That's another of saying that (in 1-dimension), when the velocity and the acceleration have the same sign, the speed is increasing; when they have opposite signs, the speed is decreasing.
 
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kuruman said:
That's another of saying that (in 1-dimension), when the velocity and the acceleration have the same sign, the speed is increasing; when they have opposite signs, the speed is decreasing.
Okay so i changed the sign of acceleration and used the equation v=-2.2/2 t^2 +60 to solve for t. i got (10 √66)/11 for time. when plugging that answer in for distance i got 295.4 meters. does this answer seem correct?
 
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It is correct.
 
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kuruman said:
It is correct.
thanks for the help
 

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