Bremsstrahlung X-Rays: Coulomb Interaction & Electron Acceleration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of Bremsstrahlung X-rays, specifically focusing on the Coulomb interaction between incident electrons and atomic nuclei, and the resulting acceleration or deceleration of electrons. Participants explore the mechanisms behind energy loss, the nature of collisions, and the implications for X-ray generation in various materials.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the statement regarding electrons being decelerated during Bremsstrahlung is misleading, proposing instead that electrons are accelerated, albeit with a decrease in their final velocity.
  • Others emphasize that Bremsstrahlung results from the deceleration of charged particles, particularly electrons, as they interact with atomic nuclei, leading to the emission of photons due to energy conservation.
  • One participant critiques the use of Wikipedia as a source, arguing that it oversimplifies the interaction by suggesting collisions with nuclei, which they claim is unlikely and not representative of the actual processes involved.
  • Another participant highlights the complexity of energy loss mechanisms in solids, noting that interactions with the electron sea and atomic orbitals are significant, particularly in generating characteristic X-rays.
  • A quote from Leighton is presented, discussing the dual interactions of charged particles with nuclei and surrounding electrons, and how these contribute to energy loss and X-ray emission.
  • Several participants express skepticism about classical explanations of Bremsstrahlung, suggesting that quantum mechanical interactions may play a more critical role in understanding the phenomenon.
  • One participant mentions their practical experience with X-ray spectroscopy equipment, indicating a preference for characteristic radiation over Bremsstrahlung due to the complexities involved in the latter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the nature of electron interactions during Bremsstrahlung, particularly whether the process is best described in classical or quantum mechanical terms. There is no consensus on the mechanisms involved or the validity of various claims made about the interactions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of classical theories in explaining the interactions within dense materials and the potential significance of quantum mechanical effects, suggesting that the discussion is still open to interpretation and further exploration.

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1. I have problems finding the truth of this statement.
The statement is cited from "book".
I want to draw your attention to the following words: electron is decelerated

2. Statement: "Bremsstrahlung X rays result from Coulomb interaction between the incident electron and the nuclei of the target material. During the Coulomb interaction between the incident electron and the nuclei, the incident electron is decelerated and loses part of its kinetic energy in the form of bremsstrahlung photons(radiative loos)."

3. My views: electron is acelerated.
 
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The electron is accelerated (its velocity vector changes, without giving a specific direction), and its final velocity is lower than the initial velocity (effective deceleration).

=> both
 
Bremsstrahlung (German pronunciation: [ˈbʁɛmsˌʃtʁaːlʊŋ] ( listen), from bremsen "to brake" and Strahlung "radiation", i.e. "braking radiation" or "deceleration radiation") is electromagnetic radiation produced by the deceleration of a charged particle when deflected by another charged particle, typically an electron by an atomic nucleus. The moving particle loses kinetic energy, which is converted into a photon because energy is conserved. The term is also used to refer to the process of producing the radiation. Bremsstrahlung has a continuous spectrum, which becomes more intense and shifts toward higher frequencies as the change of the energy of the accelerated particles increases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung
 
Wikipedia is not the best authority to quote on this. It's partly correct - but collision with a nucleus is not a good example.
a) It's highly unlikely that an electron could encounter a 'naked' nucleus
b) If it did, the collision would be elastic.
(I love the vague reference to the conservation of energy as 'explanation':)

Bremsstrahlung result when an electron ploughs into the sea of electrons inside a solid (usually a metal) The energy loss mechanisms are complex and varied, mostly involving transitions in the band structure and the atomic orbitals.
There's also some production of characteristic x-rays from the lower atomic shells - which tends to be more pronounced in lighter elements. Al & Mg are commonly used as targets to generate narrow band x-ray probes.
 
(I love the vague reference to the conservation of energy as 'explanation':)

Glad you 'love' it because it's how we explain such a phenomena... the cause of the change in velocity is unimportant.

The energy loss mechanisms are complex and varied, mostly involving transitions in the band structure and the atomic orbitals.

I think you mean the energy GAIN mechanisms are complex and varied...
 
Quote from Leighton: "When a charged particle passes through matter, it interacts electrically with the nuclei of the atoms and also with the electrons surrounding the nuclei. The second of these interactions usually results only in an electronic excitation or ionization of some of the atoms which lie near the path of the incoming particle, and the particle loses numerous small amounts of energy in these encounters, gradually diminishing in energy and eventually coming to rest. This relatively slow deceleration of the particle is not, however responsible for the X-radiation."

"The emission of X-rays results, rather, from the less frequent, but individually more catastrophic, encounters with the atomic nuclei. In such encounters the force acting upon the incoming particle, and therefore its acceleration, is Z times greater than in the individual electronic encounters, and in addition the more massive nucleus does not recoil as readily as does a light electron. One would thus expect the radiated energy to be Z2 times greater from these nuclear encounters than from the electronic encounters."
 
I'm not an expert on Bremsstrahlung itself. But I've built and installed X-ray Spectroscopy equipment for 20 years. Mostly it's designed to avoid Bremsstrahlung because we really require the more clearly defined characteristic radiation.
The characteristic X-rays are generated by electron collision with the inner orbitals K, L and M shells, which causes excitation and subsequent decay with associated photon emission of clearly defined energy.
In lighter elements these lines are more energetic than the Brems. radiation which is easily filtered out by window foils.
In heavier elements, the Brems. radiation is stronger and becomes a problem. This may indeed be due to the heavier nucleus but I find it hard to believe that it's due to actual collision with the nuclear e-field. It seems much more likely to me that the nucleus acts as an anchor for the atom as a whole and that the interaction is mainly if not entirely with the electron population.

I can think of no energy loss mechanism between a solitary nucleus and an electron that will result in photon emission. As I said, it's an elastic collision. The electron exits with [EDIT: essentially] the same energy it entered. Unless something gets excited and subsequently decays there is no way to emit a photon. [EDIT:there is obviously a small transfer of KE to the nucleus]
 
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The "collision" (near miss) with a nucleus is not elastic. In a classical picture, the acceleration is so strong that the electron (accelerated charge) emits radiation. In a QM picture, the transition is allowed, and happens quite frequently.
The electron can come very close to a localized nucleus with a large charge - something which cannot happen with other electrons.
 
mfb said:
The "collision" (near miss) with a nucleus is not elastic. In a classical picture, the acceleration is so strong that the electron (accelerated charge) emits radiation. In a QM picture, the transition is allowed, and happens quite frequently.
The electron can come very close to a localized nucleus with a large charge - something which cannot happen with other electrons.

I'll go along with that.
I've been pondering the question and it seems to me the classical explanations are way too simplistic. There's a LOT going on inside a solid metal when an electron beam impacts. Primary beam electrons don't get far before they are scattered and degraded. There's a massive production of secondaries and Auger electrons. It isn't at all clear to me what part the band structure of the metal plays but I'm willing to bet it's highly significant.

Classical Brems. theory explains some observations in nebulae but I can't accept it's the be-all-end-all of interaction in dense matter. I'd much rather blame QM interactions.
 
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bremsstrahlung is a purely classical phenomenon but the quantum mechanical discussion of it just involves the fact that an electron moving through empty space cannot radiate .only when it interacts with the coulomb field of nucleus ,it is possible to emit photon.A standard calculation using feynman diagram will eventually show it.
 

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