Brownian motion integration/calculus

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The discussion revolves around the properties and interpretations of Brownian motion, specifically focusing on the stochastic integral and its implications. Participants are examining the identity involving the integral of Brownian motion and questioning its validity and intuitive understanding.

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  • Participants are exploring the meaning of the stochastic integral and its relationship to Brownian motion. Some express uncertainty about the properties of Brownian paths, while others seek a deeper intuitive understanding of the integral's implications.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and uncertainties. Some have provided insights into the nature of Brownian motion and the stochastic integral, while others are questioning their understanding and seeking clarification on specific concepts.

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There is mention of the need for a foundational understanding of stochastic integrals, and some participants express confusion regarding the integration with respect to a Wiener process. The discussion highlights the complexity of visualizing Brownian motion due to its properties.

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We all know that \int_0^t dB(s) = B(t), where B(t) is a standard Brownian Motion. However, is this identity true?

\int_{t_1}^{t_2} dB(s) = B(t_2) - B(t_1)
 
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I only have a passing familiarity with Brownian motion. I assume that B(t) is a Lipschitz function. (Any real particle must have a Lipschitz path or else it is traveling faster than the speed of light).

Lipschitz functions are absolutely continuous, therefore the fundamental theorem of calculus holds as you have written it. So yes, it is true.

EDIT: Oops. I had doubts and looked it up on Wikipedia. it seems that B(t) is almost surely continuous everywhere but nowhere differentiable. Apparently I was way off base.
 
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So your answer is "not sure"? :p
 
operationsres said:
We all know that \int_0^t dB(s) = B(t), where B(t) is a standard Brownian Motion. However, is this identity true?

\int_{t_1}^{t_2} dB(s) = B(t_2) - B(t_1)

The short answer is YES, at least if t1 and t2 are non-random, or even if they are random but "unrelated" to {B(t)}.

The longer answer (or, rather, a series of questions) is: do you know what is meant by
\int_{t_1}^{t_2} dB(s)? (Here, I am asking for an "intuitive" understanding of the concepts, not a 100% iron-clad presentation with all the proofs.) If you do not understand the meaning of the stochastic integral, then you have a lot of preliminary work to do, reading and absorbing the basics. If you do understand what it means, then just write it all out in detail and see what you get.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
The longer answer (or, rather, a series of questions) is: do you know what is meant by
\int_{t_1}^{t_2} dB(s)? (Here, I am asking for an "intuitive" understanding of the concepts, not a 100% iron-clad presentation with all the proofs.) If you do not understand the meaning of the stochastic integral, then you have a lot of preliminary work to do, reading and absorbing the basics. If you do understand what it means, then just write it all out in detail and see what you get.

RGV

I don't really understand what's meant when we integrate with respect to a Wiener process. I was never taught this.I know all of the properties of B(t) though.

My qualitative, uneducated guess as to what that integral is doing is adding up all the instantaneous changes in B(t) over the interval [t_1,t_2], and the summation of these infinitesimal changes is equal to B(t_2)-B(t_1) \overset{d}{=} B(t_2-t_1) \sim \mathscr{N}(0,t_2-t_1). I can't really visualize this because of the fractal like property of B(t). I guess I would have to really break down how B(t) is constructed to understand.

This is less confusing than something like \displaystyle \ \ \int_0^t r(s) dB(s), where r(s) is stochastic OR deterministic. What the heck does that integral mean ... intuitively?
 

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