Bush Supporters: Misinformed or Ignoring the Truth?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the beliefs of Bush supporters regarding Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and their justification for the Iraq war. Participants explore the implications of these beliefs, the influence of media, and the accuracy of public perceptions based on various reports, including the Duelfer report and studies on public opinion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a significant percentage of Bush supporters believe Iraq had WMD before the invasion, despite reports indicating otherwise.
  • Others argue that the media plays a crucial role in shaping public opinion, suggesting that biased reporting contributes to misinformation among the public.
  • A participant claims that those who believe Iraq did not have WMD are equally uninformed, indicating a divide in understanding the situation.
  • Discussion includes references to the Duelfer report, with some participants emphasizing that it states there was no active WMD program, while others highlight the existence of old stockpiles.
  • Some participants mention that a notable portion of Bush supporters believe Iraq was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, reflecting a broader misunderstanding of the events surrounding the war.
  • Concerns are raised about the perception among Bush supporters that there is a global consensus in favor of their beliefs, which contradicts reports from various regions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the beliefs of Bush supporters and the accuracy of the information they rely on. There is no consensus on whether these beliefs are justified or the extent of misinformation present in the media.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying interpretations of the Duelfer report and differing assumptions about the reliability of media sources. The discussion reflects a complex interplay of beliefs and perceptions without clear resolution.

  • #61
BobG said:
What's the penalty for non-compliance in the first two?

They fine you an immense amount of money, tell you to comply again. If you fail the second time, they shut down your operation.

Try working in a nuclear reactor and not complying with the NRC.
 
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  • #62
What the NRC does in response to a violation of the regulations or license commitments is dependent on the Severity Level of the violation. Sometimes they impose a civil penalty (which can be appealed) and sometimes they just issue the initial NOV.
 
  • #63
The severity of the violation is of no consequence whatsoever if the violating body does not attemp to appease the NRC and prove compliance and or attempts at compliance. Shutdown will occur.
 
  • #64
False Pretenses

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The Center for Public Integrity searchable database.
942 statements false knowingly or unknowingly.
 
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  • #65
Sorry, but we don't allow links to sites that claim absolute truth that are in fact mostly unproven opinions. Opinion pieces are allowable as long as they clearly state that they are opinions.

Please be sure you've read The P&WA guidelines

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=113181
 
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  • #66
Evo said:
Sorry, but we don't allow links to sites that claim absolute truth that are in fact mostly unproven opinions. Opinion pieces are allowable as long as they clearly state that they are opinions.

Please be sure you've read The P&WA guidelines

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=113181
Sorry, I missed the post where hotcommodity linked indirectly with a USA Today link; I'll try to be more indirect.
And I'll remember when an organization makes a claim like this "The Center for Public Integrity is a nonprofit organization dedicated to producing original, responsible investigative journalism on issues of public concern. The Center is non-partisan and non-advocacy. We are committed to transparent and comprehensive reporting both in the United States and around the world." they are claiming to be God.
 
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