C++ Builder / RAD Studio Embarcadero

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of C++ Builder and RAD Studio by Embarcadero, focusing on user experiences, capabilities, pricing, and compliance with C++ standards. Participants share their insights on the software's features, its adoption in different countries, and specific technical aspects related to compiler versions and standards compliance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express satisfaction with C++ Builder's capabilities for developing native cross-platform applications with minimal effort.
  • Concerns are raised about the high cost of RAD Studio licenses, which may be prohibitive for individual developers and small companies.
  • One participant mentions that their company uses RAD XE5 but finds it expensive.
  • There is a query regarding the C++ standard compliance of Embarcadero C++ XE5-XE10, with some participants noting that XE5 supports C++11 but does not fully implement all features, such as lambda expressions and the auto keyword.
  • Discussion includes technical details about the compilers used in different versions of C++ Builder, highlighting the transition from bcc32 to CLANG in later versions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the high cost of RAD Studio and its implications for users, but there is disagreement regarding the extent of C++ standard compliance in different versions of C++ Builder, with some asserting limitations in XE5 while others acknowledge its C++11 compliance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the C++ standard features available in specific versions of C++ Builder, indicating that the software does not fully support all aspects of the C++11 standard.

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Hello All!

Anybody uses C++ Builder / RAD Studio Embarcadero? For me I used Embarcadero products on work for all project. For me interesting information of used Embarcadero in other countries. Thanks.
 
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I've used C++ Builder for some time and it is quite good but I also use Visual Studio when I need to develop some C++ code.

Now, for RAD Studio, the capabilities are really great requiring the minimum efforts by developers in order to create native cross-platform apps (Windows, Mac, iOS, Android) with no cross-compiling or wrapping around the code. That is really great but when it comes to price, the cost is prohibitive for single developers / small companies and it is somewhat expensive for even bigger companies. The license (of some thousands dollars) purchased with RAD Studio is not exactly perpetual as it does not include upgrades (which are about once per year) and technical support although great, is somewhat expensive too. I don't say that the total costs included are unreasonable given the power of RAD Studio but the whole thing is somewhat overpriced.

For its usage, as far as I know, it is advertised to have around 3 million users worldwide. In my country I know quite a few people using it in the companies they work for.
 
Thanks. I work in little russian company (120 employees). We use official version RAD XE5. It's expensive for us.
 
What C++ standart use in Embarcadero C++ XE5-XE10? I don't find this in official web site.
 
Embarcadero C++ Builder XE 5 had already C++ 11 standards compliance.
 
Ok. Thanks. But Builder not follow full standart. I cannot use lambda expression and auto keyword in XE5.
 
C++ Builder XE 5 compiler was bcc32 (Windows, Mac OS X) and bcc64 (Windows), the old compiler with some enhancements for C++ 11. In version XE 10 (Seattle) Embarcadero introduced CLANG an enhanced compiler and also a toolchain for Win32 (bcc32c). For the features of the latest developments of Embarcadero for Delphi, C++ Builder and RAD Studio see here.
 
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Good. Thanks a lot!
 
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