Calc iii question/analytic geometry

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The discussion revolves around proving that the vector sum of the vertices of a regular tetrahedron from the origin is perpendicular to the plane formed by the other three vertices. The subject area includes vector analysis and properties of geometric shapes in three-dimensional space.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the vector sum of the vertices and questions the correctness of their approach. Other participants raise concerns about the regularity of the tetrahedron and suggest using variable side lengths to generalize the proof.

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Participants are exploring different configurations of the tetrahedron and questioning the validity of the original setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of variable lengths to generalize the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the approach or solution.

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There are discussions about the regularity of the tetrahedron and the implications of proving the statement for one specific case versus all regular tetrahedra. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the calculations and the geometric properties involved.

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Given vertices of regular tetrahedron OABC, prove that vector OA + OB + OC is perpendicular to plane ABC...

I've been racking my brain on this one, can't figure it out... would appreciate some help

I thought I'd center it on the origin:
(0, 0, 0)
(1, 0, 0)
(0, 1, 0)
(0, 0, 1)

A + B + C = (1, 0, 0) + (0, 1, 0) +(0, 0, 1) = (1, 1, 1)
(not sure if that's right - seems like it would be outside the tetrahedron)

No idea where to go from there.
 
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The problem here is that your tetrahedron isn't regular. Consider triangle OAB. Two of the sides have length 1, but the hypoenuse has length \sqrt{2}. You'll have to choose different vectors.
 
Is there an easier way to do it? Showing that this is true for one regular tetrahedron doesn't necessarily/formally mean it holds for all of them, does it?

Also, even when I switch coordinates, it doesn't work. For example, a regular tetrahedron (... at least wikipedia says this one is regular)

O (1, 1, 1)
A (-1, -1, 1)
B (-1, 1, -1)
C (1, -1, -1)

vector OA = A - O = (-2, -2, 0)
Similarly, vector OB = (-2, 0, -2)
OC = (0, -2, -2)

AB = (0, 2, -2)
AC = (2, 0, -2)

AB x AC = (-4, -4, -4)
OA + OB + OC = (-4, -4, -4)

And when you take the dot product of those it should be 0 (if they are perpendicular, as they are supposed to be)... but it isn't 0

What's wrong? Also, again is showing it holds for one regular tetrahedron sufficient?
 
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jaejoon89 said:
Is there an easier way to do it?

If there is, I don't see it.

Showing that this is true for one regular tetrahedron doesn't necessarily/formally mean it holds for all of them, does it?

No, but you're trying to do hear is easily generalized. Instead of trying to come up with a tetrahedron whose sides are of unit length just let the length be some variable, say a. Then *presto* you're working with any possible regular tetrahedron.
 

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