Calc Optimization - Point on an ellipse closest to origin.

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The discussion focuses on finding the point on the ellipse defined by the equation x² - 2xy + 6y² = 10 that is closest to the origin (0,0). Participants express difficulty in solving the equation due to the presence of the mixed term -2xy. A suggested method involves completing the square with respect to y, which transforms the equation into a more manageable form. The final expression simplifies to 6(y - (1/6)x)² + (5/6)x², allowing for further analysis to determine the minimum distance to the origin.

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  • Understanding of ellipse equations and their properties
  • Knowledge of completing the square in quadratic equations
  • Familiarity with distance formulas in coordinate geometry
  • Basic calculus concepts, including derivatives for optimization
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  • Learn about optimization techniques in multivariable calculus
  • Explore the properties of ellipses and their geometric interpretations
  • Investigate distance minimization problems in coordinate geometry
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Homework Statement


x^2 - 2xy + 6y^2 = 10
Find the point on the ellipse closest to the origin (0,0).

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The Attempt at a Solution



Absolutely no one in my class can solve this. We've been to the math lab and none of the helpers there know how to solve it. I think the only person who knows how to solve it here is my professor, and he essentially dodges our requests for an example. I know how to solve this if the ellipse is, for example, x^3+4y^2 = 7. The problem is, this ellipse has 2xy in it and I don't know how to solve for y to plug in the distance formula.For x^3 + 4y^2 = 10:

y = [(10-x^3)/4]^.5

D = sq rt {x^2 + [(10-x^3)^.5]^2}

When D is a min, you have the closest point to the origin.

So, I essentially just need to know how to solve x^2 - 2xy + 6y^2 = 10 for y, or an alternate means to solve this problem.

Thanks!
 
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Complete the square with respect to y
 
Thanks

How do I do that?
 
It is a rather involved process. I assume you know how to complete the square for something like ax^2+bx+c. In this case treat x as a constant and complete the square for y
 
I understand how I could take the derivative of that with respect to y... but I have no idea how to go about completing the square like that...
 
6y^2-2xy+x^2 = 6 \left( y^2-\frac{1}{3} xy \right) + x^2
6 \left( y^2-\frac{1}{3} xy + \frac{1}{36} x^2 - \frac{1}{36} x^2 \right) + x^2
6 \left( y^2-\frac{1}{3} xy + \frac{1}{36} x^2 \right) - \frac{1}{6} x^2 + x^2
6 \left( y- \frac{1}{6} x \right)^2 +\frac{5}{6} x^2

Edit: Sorry I destroyed the Typesetting so bad, trying to do math in two variables and type set at the same time threw me off
 
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Thank you so much! I think I can figure this one out now.
 

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