Calculate Coefficient of Kinetic Friction for Sliding Block - Spring Problem

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The problem involves calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction for a block sliding across a tabletop after being released from a compressed spring. The scenario includes a block of mass 4.6 kg, a spring constant of 330 N/m, and a distance of 83 cm that the block travels before stopping.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy principles, considering the conversion of spring potential energy to kinetic energy. There are attempts to relate forces and work done against friction, with some questioning the role of gravitational potential energy in this horizontal setup.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of energy conservation and the relationship between forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of frictional force and its relationship to kinetic energy and distance traveled.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of energy transformations and the effects of friction, with some confusion regarding the application of concepts in a horizontal motion context. There is an acknowledgment of the limitations of the current understanding, particularly in the absence of explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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You push a 4.6 kg block against a horizontal spring, compressing the spring by 26 cm. Then you release the block, and the spring sends it sliding across a tabletop. It stops 83 cm from where you released it. The spring constant is 330 N/m. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the table?


So to start, I have figured out the potential energy of the spring when it is compressed, and it is .5 (330 N/m)(.26 m) squared = 11.154 J But after that, I am not really sure what to do. I tried something with force x distance, but I cannot remember what I did. But I am just unsure where to start on this one. Help would be great
 
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HINT: Think about conservation of energy.
 
I know, but I'm trying to figure out what is actually there. I know that there is the max kinetic energy when the block hits the spring, but no potential energy (I'm taking the uncompressed spring to be height 0), and when the spring compresses, it is the gravitational potential energy and spring potential energy that are not 0, right?? so in the end, it should be (1/2)(m)(v)squared = 1/2 (k)(x)squared plus (m)x(g)x (y) where y and x are the distance compressed by the spring?
 
Your almost correct there, but since the spring and table are horizontal the gravitational potential of the block is constant, so now you have;

\frac{1}{2}mv^2=\frac{1}{2}kx^2

Edit: well it seems latex is down at the moment, so: 1/2mv2=1/2kx2

Do you follow?
 
Not really. So I have the maximum potential energy when the spring is compressed, which is all converted to kinetic energy when it is moved, right? So then because F x distance = Change in KE, can i simply sum of the forces work (Work of Block + Work of friction opposing it = 0?)
 
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Not really. So I have the maximum potential energy when the spring is compressed, which is all converted to kinetic energy when it is moved, right? So then because F x distance = Change in KE, can i simply sum of the forces work (Work of Block + Work of friction opposing it = 0?)
Yes, so you can calculate the frictional force by dividing the change in kinetic energy by the distance.
 
So I find the force and then divide by force normal and that gives me the answer?
 
I actually got it, thank you very much for the help
 

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