Calculate Electric Field at Point P: L, λ, & Q Given

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at a specific point due to a uniformly charged rod. The problem involves understanding the contributions of both the vertical and horizontal components of the electric field generated by the charge distribution along the rod.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to derive expressions for the x and y components of the electric field due to an infinitesimal charge element along the rod. There are questions about the integration process and the correctness of the derived expressions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in finding the x-component of the electric field but are encountering difficulties with the y-component. There is an ongoing exploration of potential mistakes in the integration process and the expressions used. Suggestions for checking assumptions and clarifying the setup have been made.

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Participants note discrepancies between their results and the expected answers, indicating a need for careful verification of calculations and assumptions. There is mention of a metaphorical "magic rule" for solving similar problems, which introduces a different perspective on the charge distribution.

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A rod of length L has a uniform positive charge per unit length λ and a
total charge Q as shown in figure below. Calculate the electric field at point P.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68849979@N03/6261311950/in/photostream"

Been stuck at this question for some time. Could someone point me in the direction as to how should i tackle this question? Great Thanks!

I know I have to solve for both the vertical and horizontal component of E-field. Bu where do i go from there?
 
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could anyone help me with this question?
 
Latios1314 said:
A rod of length L has a uniform positive charge per unit length λ and a
total charge Q as shown in figure below. Calculate the electric field at point P.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68849979@N03/6261311950/in/photostream"
6261311950_9a6bcb6309_b.jpg

Been stuck at this question for some time. Could someone point me in the direction as to how should i tackle this question? Great Thanks!

I know I have to solve for both the vertical and horizontal component of E-field. Bu where do i go from there?

You need an expression, dEx for the x-component of the electric field at point (0, -a) due to an element of charge dq at location (x,0) on the x-axis.

You also need an expression for dEy, the y-component at the same location, due to the same element of charge as above.

To find the electric field, E, integrate each of these components from x = -b, to x = -b+L .
 
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Managed to find the x-component but I'm having problems with that in the y direction.

I'm taking dE in the y-direction= k dq/ sqrt(x^2+a^2) X a/sqrt(x^2+a^2)

But the answer that i get after integrating it is different from the answer given. Where have i made the mistake?
 
Latios1314 said:
Managed to find the x-component but I'm having problems with that in the y direction.

I'm taking dE in the y-direction= k dq/ sqrt(x^2+a^2) X a/sqrt(x^2+a^2)

But the answer that i get after integrating it is different from the answer given. Where have i made the mistake?

dEy should be the negative of that.

What do you get for a result?

What is the given answer?

Added in Edit:

In dEy: That first sqrt factor should be squared.
 
Latios1314 said:
could anyone help me with this question?

I am going to give you a magic rule(not a magic just metaphor) to solve this kind of question.see this image(in attachment)
electric field due to black charged rod at the point where grey lines meet is equal to the electric field at that point due arc which is intercepted between gray lines.Assume charge density on arc is same as in rod. Center of circle is intersection of grey lines.
Now the question is changed you have to find Electric field at point due to an arc whose chrge density, angle and radius is known.
Now it is quite simple to solve.:biggrin:
This is a fully proved method.
 

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SammyS said:
dEy should be the negative of that.

What do you get for a result?

What is the given answer?

Added in Edit:

In dEy: That first sqrt factor should be squared.
dE in the y-direction= k dq/ (x^2+a^2) X a/sqrt(x^2+a^2)

my bad. it should have been this. A typing error. where could the mistake have been made? i got some weird answer after integrating this.
 

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