Calculate electric field of infinite slab

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The problem involves calculating the electric field of an infinite plane slab with a specified charge density that varies with position. The slab is defined in the z-direction, and the challenge is to find the electric field, E(z), for all values of z using different approaches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using Gauss' law versus Coulomb's law for calculating the electric field. There is curiosity about the feasibility of using Coulomb's law directly, despite it being more tedious. Questions arise regarding the correct formulation of integrals and the vector nature of the electric field.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various methods to approach the problem, with some suggesting the use of the Poisson equation as an alternative. There is recognition of the complexity involved in different methods, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus has been reached on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential difficulties in integrating over the specified volume and the implications of the charge density being zero outside the slab. There are also discussions about the assumptions made regarding symmetry and the nature of the electric field.

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Homework Statement


An infinite plane slab of thickness 2d lies in the xy-plane with −d<z<d. Its charge density is given
as ρ = kz2 for −d<z< d and zero otherwise.
(i) Find the electric field, E(z), for all z.

Homework Equations


Gauss' law


The Attempt at a Solution


This problem is pretty easy to do with a gaussian surface. However. I wanted to know if I could also do it by calculating the field directly from coulombs law (I know it would be far more tedious but I'm just curious) with the integral
1/4∏ε0Vρ/r2dv = 1/4∏ε0∫∫∫ρ/(x2+y2+z2) dxdydx where the integrals of y and x run from -∞ to ∞ and the integral of z runs from -d to d.

But if so, this integral would only hold for being outside the slab right?
 
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zezima1 said:

Homework Statement


An infinite plane slab of thickness 2d lies in the xy-plane with −d<z<d. Its charge density is given
as ρ = kz2 for −d<z< d and zero otherwise.
(i) Find the electric field, E(z), for all z.

Homework Equations


Gauss' law

The Attempt at a Solution


This problem is pretty easy to do with a gaussian surface. However. I wanted to know if I could also do it by calculating the field directly from coulombs law (I know it would be far more tedious but I'm just curious) with the integral
1/4∏ε0Vρ/r2dv = 1/4∏ε0∫∫∫ρ/(x2+y2+z2) dxdydx where the integrals of y and x run from -∞ to ∞ and the integral of z runs from -d to d.

But if so, this integral would only hold for being outside the slab right?
The integral
$$\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\int_V \frac{\rho}{r^2}\,dv,$$ where r is understood to be the distance from the volume element dv to the point at which you're trying to calculate the E field, isn't quite correct because you're not taking into account the vector nature of the electric field. The integral as written sums the magnitude of the electric field, but that's not how superposition works for the E field.

Even if we ignore that error, your second integral
$$\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\int_V \frac{\rho}{x^2+y^2+z^2}\,dv$$ doesn't equal the first one because r2 isn't equal to ##x^2+y^2+z^2##.

Still, your basic idea is right. You can calculate the electric field using this method, though as you noted, it's tedious.
 
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but x2+y2+z2 does equal r2?

But you are right I didn't put account for the vector nature. from symmetry we see that the field must point along the z-axis. So therefore multiplying by a cosine(which can be written as a ratio of z and r) should do the trick - then I would be correct right?
 
Oops, there was a typo in my last post. Forgot the square.

##\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}## is the distance from the origin to the point (x,y,z). Unless you're calculating the electric field at the origin, it's not equal to the distance r which appears in Coulomb's law.
 
zezima1 said:

Homework Statement


An infinite plane slab of thickness 2d lies in the xy-plane with −d<z<d. Its charge density is given
as ρ = kz2 for −d<z< d and zero otherwise.
(i) Find the electric field, E(z), for all z.

Homework Equations


Gauss' law


The Attempt at a Solution


This problem is pretty easy to do with a gaussian surface. However. I wanted to know if I could also do it by calculating the field directly from coulombs law (I know it would be far more tedious but I'm just curious) with the integral
1/4∏ε0Vρ/r2dv = 1/4∏ε0∫∫∫ρ/(x2+y2+z2) dxdydx where the integrals of y and x run from -∞ to ∞ and the integral of z runs from -d to d.

But if so, this integral would only hold for being outside the slab right?

You could try to solve the Poisson equation, del2V = -ρ/ε0.
At least that's not a vector integration, but maybe a painful 2nd order partial differential equation. You'd have to do it twice: once for inside the slab where ρ = ρ, then again outside the slab where ρ = 0.

Then E = -del V.
Bonne chance.
 

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