Calculate Force for Torque of 16Nm Using Spanner Length 24cm

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force required to achieve a torque of 16 Nm using a spanner with a length of 24 cm. The correct calculation involves dividing the torque by the length of the spanner, resulting in a force of approximately 66.67 N. The conversation also clarifies the concept of torque and the role of reactive forces from the bolt, emphasizing that a couple is not necessary for the spanner to turn the nut, as the bolt exerts both torque and linear force that counteracts the applied force.

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Question:

"A nut is to be tightened to a torque of 16N m. Calculate the force which must be applied to the end of a spanner of length 24cm in order to produce this torque."

This question is so easy, just take the 16 divide by 0.24 and you get the answer.

But something is confusing me. Please see attached image.

Anyone who would explain it to me, I thank you very much.
 

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If your diagram, the spanner handle is 24cm - but that is not what the question says.
I don't understand the comments on your diagram ...
 
Sorry, I drew it wrongly.

Okay the main confusion is this:
Since a couple has to have two forces acting, then where is the other force, other than the one you apply on the end of the handle?
 
coconut62 said:
Since a couple has to have two forces acting, then where is the other force, other than the one you apply on the end of the handle?
The bolt exerts both a torque and a linear force on the nut. These add up to be equivalent to a single force directly opposing the applied force on the other end of the spanner.
 
You don't actually need a couple to make something turn do you?

But sure - if there were no other forces present, the spanner would not be able to turn the nut - at least, not in the way we want it to. i.e. if the bolt were not fixed in place, and constraining the nut, the applied force would not result in the required torque.
 
haruspex said:
The bolt exerts both a torque and a linear force on the nut.

What linear force? In which direction?
 
coconut62 said:
What linear force? In which direction?
The linear force is equal and opposite (parallel) to the applied force, but its line of action is through the centre of the bolt. This reactive force from the bolt combined with the applied force creates a couple. The reactive couple the bolt exerts on the nut is equal and opposite to that couple. (This all assumes nothing is accelerating.)
 

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