Calculate Hydrostatic Force for Pumping Out Water from a Circular Pool

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The problem involves calculating the work required to pump water out of a circular swimming pool. The pool has a diameter of 24 feet, a height of 5 feet, and a water depth of 4 feet. The weight of water is given as 62.5 lb/ft³.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, questioning the integral used for calculating work and the reasoning behind it. There are considerations about the varying distances water must be lifted depending on its depth in the pool.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to conceptualize the problem, suggesting the use of infinitesimal layers of water and the need for integration. There is an ongoing exploration of how to set up the integral correctly to find the total work.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and are trying to clarify assumptions about the setup and the calculations involved.

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Hi everyone,

Could you please tell me if the setup is correct?

Homework Statement


A circularswimming pool has a diameter of 24 feet, the sides are 5ft height, and the depth of the water is 4 ft. How much work is required to pump all of the water out over the side? (Use the fact that water weighs 62. lb/ft^3)

Homework Equations


w=(force)(distance)

The Attempt at a Solution



force=(62.5 lb/ft^3)(9.8m/s^2)=
6.12.598

distance=24ft

work=int. 0 to 24(612.598)(24)ydy

Thank you very much
 
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chocolatelover said:
Hi everyone,

Could you please tell me if the setup is correct?

Homework Statement


A circularswimming pool has a diameter of 24 feet, the sides are 5ft height, and the depth of the water is 4 ft. How much work is required to pump all of the water out over the side? (Use the fact that water weighs 62. lb/ft^3)

You're going to have to explain your reasoning on how you came up with that work integral, because it's not clear that you have the right picture of how you are removing the water.

Consider that the cross section of the pool at every depth is a circle 24 feet in diameter. The water at the surface has to be lifted one foot to get it over the side of the pool, while the water at the bottom will need to be lifted five feet. How much water at any level y below the surface of the water or the edge of the pool (your choice) has to be lifted? (How do you figure that out?) How much work will it take to lift that layer of water to the edge of the pool? What does the integral to find the total amount of work need to look like?
 
Thank you very much

Could you show me how to set up the problem, please?

Thank you very much
 
Think of an infinitesimally thin layer of water that is a distance y down from the top edge of the pool. It has the area of a circle of radius 12 feet, so A = (pi)·(12^2) ft^2. It has a thickness dy, so this layer has an infinitesimal volume dV = A dy ft^3. The weight of this layer is dw = (density of water) · dV = 62.5 · dV lbs.

To get this layer up out of the pool will take an infinitesimal amount of work

dW = dw · y ft-lbs ,

where y is the vertical distance we need to lift it in order to raise it to the edge of the pool (we assume it takes negligible work to shift it horizontally out from the pool).

So dW = y · (62.5) · (pi) · (12^2) · dy ft-lbs , putting all these pieces together.

We now need to add all these infinitesimal bits of work to find the total work it takes to empty the pool over the side. So that's where we need to integrate. What does that integral for W look like?
 
Thank you very much

Would this work?

weight=force=(volume)(weight of water)
=(3.1412^2deltayft^3)(62.5 lb/ft^3)
=(0900)(3.14lb)

distance=yft

work=int. 0 to 4 (9000)(3.14)ydy
=(226194.67 ft)(pound)

Thank you very much
 

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