Calculate Moment: 2.5kN Force about Point C

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The problem involves calculating the moment created by a 2.5 kN force acting on a connecting rod about a specific point, C. The force is directed down and to the left along the center line of the rod, and participants are exploring different methods to determine the moment, including vector and scalar approaches.

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  • Participants discuss both vector and scalar methods for calculating the moment. There are attempts to resolve the components of the force using trigonometric functions based on angles derived from the geometry of the setup. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of angle interpretations and the correct application of force components in the moment calculation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with participants questioning the accuracy of their angle measurements and the resulting force components. Some guidance is offered regarding the interpretation of the force's direction and its components, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or interpretation.

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Participants express uncertainty about the angles involved, particularly the angle of the force with respect to the horizontal and vertical. There is mention of time constraints affecting the discussion, and some participants seek clarification on their interpretations of the problem setup.

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1. It is known that the connecting rod AB exerts on the crank BC a 2.5kN force directed down and to the left along the center line of AB. Determine the moment of that force about C.

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I found the angle using tan-1 = 144/42 = 73.7

Fx = -2.5cos73.7 = -0.702
Fy = -2.5sin73.7 = -2.40

F = (-0.702i -2.40j + 0k)
CB = (-42i -56j + 0k)


F x CB= (-0.702i -2.40j + 0k) x (-42i -56j + 0k)
= -61.5 kN mm

does that seem right??

 
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that first was the vector approach but a scalar approach is


y and x compents then multiply by distance and just add them

Fx = 2.5 x cos 73.7 = 0.702
Fy = 2.5 x sin 73.7 = 2.40

Clockwise = -
Counterclockwise = +

Mx = -0.702 x 56
My = 2.40 x 42

M = Mx + My = 61.5 kN mm


can someone make sure I am interpreting the question accurately ! :)

thanks!
 
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I found the angle using tan-1 = 144/42 = 73.7

Fx = -2.5cos73.7 = -0.702
Fy = -2.5sin73.7 = -2.40
I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but 73.7° is the angle of arm AB with respect to horizontal. Are you sure. The 2.5 kN acts through AB at angle of 16.3° with respect to vertical.

To find the moment on BC, one wants the force component from AB normal to BC.
 
hmmm huh? so what i did was wrong?...

even if i use 16.3 basically the y component of the force AB is going to be

-2.5cos16.3= which is what i found -2.40
and x component
-2.5sin16.3= -0.702

these are the components of AB if i want moment about C i can take a vector from C to B and cross it with AB right?

AB x CB = 61.5 kN mm
 
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can someone atleast explain properly what I am doing wrong if I am doing anything wrong...
 

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