Calculate N for Thermo Lab Vacuum at 293K

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of gas molecules per cubic centimeter in a laboratory vacuum at a specified temperature of 293K, using the Ideal Gas Law. The pressure given is extremely low, prompting considerations of unit conversions and the appropriate constants to use in the calculations.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Ideal Gas Law, questioning the use of volume units and the constants involved. There is a focus on ensuring consistent units throughout the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into unit conversions and clarifying the use of different constants in the Ideal Gas Law. There is recognition of the need for consistent units, and some participants express differing opinions on the formulation of the gas law equations.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the use of "k" versus "R" in the Ideal Gas Law, as well as the implications of using different unit systems. The discussion highlights the importance of clarity in unit conversions and the definitions of variables.

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The best laboratory vacuum has a pressure of about 1.00 x 10-18 atm, or 1.01 x 10-13 Pa. How
many gas molecules are there per cubic centimeter in such a vacuum at 293K?

PV = nkT
P/kT = n/V = N (# of molecules per cm^3)

Since V is typically in units of m^3 or liters, should I make my volume .01V to account for the cm^3?
 
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kopinator said:
The best laboratory vacuum has a pressure of about 1.00 x 10-18 atm, or 1.01 x 10-13 Pa. How
many gas molecules are there per cubic centimeter in such a vacuum at 293K?

PV = nkT
P/kT = n/V = N (# of molecules per cm^3)

Since V is typically in units of m^3 or liters, should I make my volume .01V to account for the cm^3?

When making unit conversions, use the trick of multiplying by "1" to help you do the unit conversion.

So to convert from cm^3 to m^3 multiply by "1" like this:

1cm^3 * \frac{(1m)^3}{(100cm)^3}

The cm^3 unit terms in the numerator and denominator cancel (just like numbers cancel if they are identical in the numerator and denominator of a fraction), and you are left with what in units of m^3? Hint -- It's not 0.01 ... :smile:
 
You are using the right equation. People are conditioned to see n as number of moles and N as number of molecules, so better use N.

Now try to work in a consistent set of units. SI units is what every reasonable person would use.
p in Pascal, Pa with 1Pa = 1 N/m[sup2[/sup]. Conversion: 1 atm = 101325 N/m[sup2[/sup].
k Boltzmann constant, J/K 1.3806488 10-23 J/K
T 293 K

The equation gives you n/V in molecules/m3.
Since the exercise asks for molecules/cm3, all you have to do is multiply by

( molecules/cm3 ) / (molecules/m3 ) = cm3 / m3 = (cm / m3) = (10-2)3

[I see berkeman beat me to it, well, good for you!

But I don't agree with him (/her?): pV = NkT is just fine. It's the same as pV = nRT since n = N/NA and R = kB*NA ]
 
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Ok, sweet. Thank you!
 
Great post BvU. Thank you.
 

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