Calculate P(|Xn| > .08), n = 16

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability P(|Xn| > .08) for a normally distributed variable Xn, specifically with parameters related to a sample size of n = 16. The participants are exploring the implications of the mean and standard deviation in the context of the normal distribution.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of probabilities using the normal distribution, questioning the symmetry of limits around the mean. There are attempts to convert the problem into a standard normal distribution and to clarify the correct approach to calculating the probability.

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The discussion has progressed with participants identifying errors in their calculations and clarifying the correct method for determining the probability. Some have acknowledged misunderstandings regarding the symmetry of the distribution and the appropriate limits for integration.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the mean and the use of standard normal distribution in the calculations. Participants are also addressing discrepancies between their results and those found in reference materials.

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Homework Statement
X1, X2.. are independend, equally distributed measuring errors with expected value .1 and standard deviation 8.
Xn = (X1 + X2 + ... + Xn) / n
Calculate P(|Xn| > .08) for n = 16
Relevant Equations
$$X + Y = N(u_x + u_y, \sqrt{\sigma_x^2 + \sigma_y^2}$$
Here's how I tried to solve it.
$$Xn = N(.1 * n, \sigma*\sqrt{n}) / n = N(.1, 8 / \sqrt{16}) = N(.1, 2)$$
$$P(|Xn| > .08) = 1 - P(-.08 < x < .08) = $$
$$1 - (1 - 2P(x < -.08)) = 2P(x < -.08) =$$
$$2*\phi(\frac {-.08 - .1}{2}) = 2\phi(-.09) =$$
$$2 * (1 - \phi(.09)) = 2 * (1 - .5358) = .9284$$

Answer in my book says .968, its too much to be a rounding error.
 
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Is P(x<-.08) + P(x>.08) = 2P(x<-.08) when μ≠0?
 
mjc123 said:
Is P(x<-.08) + P(x>.08) = 2P(x<-.08) when μ≠0?
It's not. But when I calculate the probability I convert it to N(0, 1) distribution:
$$2*\phi(\frac {-.08 - .1}{2}) $$
 
But that is not right. Do you see why? Your limits are not symmetrical about the mean.
 
When working with P(x.. I assume the u = 0.
When I later calculate P I use standard normal distribution doing:
$$2*\phi(\frac {-.08 - .1}{2}) $$
instead of just
$$2*\phi(-.08) $$

I don't see how that's wrong?
 
The limits are -.08 and +.08. The mean is 0.1. Translated into a standard normal distribution, you are looking at the range -.09 to -.01. The probability is not 2φ(-.09). It is φ(-.09) + 1-φ(-.01).
 
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Aha, that was the issue. Re did it and now I get the correct answer, thanks!
 

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