Calculate pH of NH3/NH4Cl Buffer System After NaOH Addition

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The discussion revolves around calculating the pH of a buffer system consisting of NH3 and NH4Cl after the addition of NaOH. Participants explore the theoretical framework of buffer solutions, including equilibrium expressions and the impact of strong bases on the buffer components.

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  • One participant presents a calculation for the initial pH of the buffer system using the equilibrium expression for NH3 and NH4+, leading to a pH of 9.17.
  • Another participant suggests that after the addition of NaOH, the pH would be 9.21, indicating minimal change due to the reaction between NH4+ and OH-.
  • A participant questions the use of 'x' in the initial calculations, expressing confusion about the necessity of an I.C.E. table for this problem.
  • Another participant explains the I.C.E. table method, emphasizing its role in tracking changes in concentrations during the reaction.
  • One participant discusses the importance of converting moles to concentrations when calculating pH after the addition of NaOH, highlighting the need for careful volume considerations.
  • A later reply mentions the potential complexity of solving multiple Ka equations for the system, suggesting that the initial approach may not capture all necessary interactions.

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Participants express differing views on the calculation methods and the necessity of using an I.C.E. table. There is no consensus on the best approach to determine the pH after NaOH addition, and multiple methods are presented without resolution.

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Some participants note the assumptions made in their calculations, such as neglecting the change in 'x' for small values, and the potential need for more complex equilibrium considerations when mixing the buffer components.

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Calculate the pH of the 0.30 M NH3/0.36 M NH4Cl buffer system. What is the pH after the addition of 20.0 mL of 0.050 M NaOH to 80 mL of the buffer solution?

NH4+ ---> NH3 + H+

0.36 0.30 0
-x +x +x
0.36-x 0.30 + x x

Ka=[NH3][H+]/[NH4+]
5.6 x 10^-10 = (0.30 + x)(x)/(0.36 - x)
5.6 x 10^-10 = 0.30x/0.36, assuming x is negligible
=6.72 x 10^-10

pH=-log[H+]
=-log (6.72 x 10^-10)
=9.17

I don't know what to do next, can anybody please point me in the right direction?
 
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For the second part, the OH- will react with the NH4+ ion to produce NH3 + H2O, so the number of moles of acid decreases by an equal amount as the number of moles of OH- and the number of moles of base increases by the same amount, so:

[H3O+] = Ka x (number of moles of acid) / (number of moles of conjugate base)

[H30+] = (Ka)((0.36)(0.08) - (0.050)(0.0200)) / ((0.30)(0.08) + (0.050)(0.0200))

So you get a pH of 9.21; barely any change at all.
 
Thanks Snazzy!
 
Whats with the x's in the first part? I thought it would be as simple as:
Ka = \frac{[NH_{3}][H^{+}]}{[NH_{4}^{+}]} = 5.6*10^{-10}

This isn't me saying my take on the answer btw, I just haven't done buffer stuff in ages and would like to know O_o
 
Hey AbedeuS,

We were taught to use an I.C.E. table inorder to answer these types of questions, where I is the initial molar concentration, C is the change in concentraion and E is the concentration at equilibrium. The x's are used in place of unknown quantities. I'm going to try your way though, because I'm all for simplicity! Cheers.
 
I'm not too sure if my way is correct is the problem though, I'm just going off basic equilibria principles so:

K_{a} = \frac{[NH_{3}][H^{+}]}{[NH_{4}^{+}]}

Substitute and rearrange:

[H^{+}] = \frac{5.6*10^{-10} * 0.36}{0.3} = 6.72*10^{-10}

Convert concentration to pH:

-log(6.72*10^{-10}) = 9.1726

Part 2,

Since your adding a strong base (NaOH) it can be presumed that it deprotinates an amount of ammonium equal to its own number of moles leaving an equivalent amount of ammonia which will be added to the original amount. Remember however that Ka is working with concentrations, so converting to moles to add and take away quantities does require division by the new volume to convert back into concentration using the n = cv equation Therefore:

[NH_{4}^{+}]_{new} = \frac{([NH_{4}^{+}]_{old}*V_{NH_{4}^{+}}) - ([OH-]*V_{NaOH})}{V_{new}}

And:

[NH_{3}]_{new} = \frac{([NH_{3}]_{old}*V_{NH_{3}})+([OH^{-}]*V_{NaOH})}{V_{new}}

But since the acid equilibrium equation has NH_{4}^{+} on the bottom and NH_{3} on the top, the division by the new volume to give the new concentration is unnecessary and cancels out leading too:

6.72*10^{-10} = \frac{[NH_{3}][H^{+}]}{[NH_{4}^{+}]} = \frac{[0.3*0.08 + 0.050*0.02][H^{+}]}{[0.36*0.08 - 0.05*0.02]}}

Rearranging:

\frac{5.6*10^{-10}*(0.36*0.08-0.05*0.02)}{0.3*0.08+0.05*0.02} = [H^{+}] = 6.2272*10^{-10}

Taking logs:

pH = -log(6.2272*10^{-10}) = 9.206

This is just the long winded way of what Snazzy did, but buffer solutions tend to pop up a lot and I wanted a referral type answer.

EDIT: Subbed in wrong Ka, leading to a lower pH then expected.
 
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Thanks AbedeuS,

Now I know where I was going wrong. I saw it in snazzy's response also, but now I know precicesly where and why. Thanks for your help guys!
 
I think the X's in your table are used because the concentrations I have used for the maths just uses the question concentrations, the reality I presume involves solving two Ka equations, one for pure NH4 and another for when the pure NH4 is put with NH3, ill have a look later.
 

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