Calculate Resistance and resistivity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating resistance and resistivity using given data values such as voltage, diameter, area, and inverse area. Participants explore the formulas for resistance and resistivity, while expressing frustration over missing current values needed for calculations.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that resistance cannot be calculated without knowing either the current or resistance values.
  • There is a suggestion that the current value might be hidden in the lab instructions or data.
  • One participant expresses frustration over the lack of clarity in lab instructions and the absence of a manual.
  • Participants discuss the importance of understanding theoretical concepts before conducting experiments.
  • Some participants emphasize the need to know expected outputs and required measurements prior to the lab.
  • There is a mention of the potential for revisiting the lab with the instructor for clarification or additional work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that without certain values, calculations cannot be completed. However, there is no consensus on how to proceed given the missing data, and the discussion reflects multiple viewpoints regarding lab preparation and instruction clarity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the provided data and express uncertainty about the completeness of the lab instructions. There is also a recognition that theoretical knowledge is crucial for successfully conducting experiments.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students engaged in laboratory work related to electrical engineering or physics, particularly those seeking to understand the relationship between theoretical concepts and practical applications in experiments.

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I have voltage, diameter, area, and inverse area data values. How could I calculate the resistance and resistivity with these numbers? I am pretty sure resistance is R=V/I and resistivity= RA/L , so I am not sure how I can calculate resistance without an I value.
 
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Steelers72 said:
I have voltage, diameter, area, and inverse area data values. How could I calculate the resistance and resistivity with these numbers? I am pretty sure resistance is R=V/I and resistivity= RA/L , so I am not sure how I can calculate resistance without an I value.
You are right. If you aren't told either R or both V and I, you cannot find resistivity. Are you trying to answer a Question in a book? Perhaps the current value is hidden somewhere else.
 
sophiecentaur said:
You are right. If you aren't told either R or both V and I, you cannot find resistivity. Are you trying to answer a Question in a book? Perhaps the current value is hidden somewhere else.
Im not sure. It was a lab. Very frustrating because current is mentioned anywhere
 
Yes: frustrating if you can't go back and do it again. It can be difficult if you are working to a set of instructions which are presented in steps but without the necessary background. I don't know where you can go from here to get an actual result - but you have sussed out the theory now so everything isn't lost. :smile:
 
Steelers72 said:
It was a lab

Tip for labs:
Before any lab, always know what your outputs, that is results, should be. Know what you are looking for.

Then you determine before the lab what measurements, what variables, are required during the lab.
 
Thanks for the advice. I wish there was a manual it is all written in paragraph form. Annoying.
 
alw34 said:
Tip for labs:
Before any lab, always know what your outputs, that is results, should be. Know what you are looking for.

Then you determine before the lab what measurements, what variables, are required during the lab.
Absolutely. Just following your nose through a series of measurements can often lead you nowhere. Despite the 'learning by doing' mantra that's practiced in many places, getting to know the theory first is much more reliable.
 
Steelers72 said:
Thanks for the advice. I wish there was a manual it is all written in paragraph form. Annoying.
The theory isn't in manuals - it's in textbooks, which have probably been better thought out than a set of lab instructions.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
if you can't go back and do it again.

good point. If you had lab partners and they recorded what you need get it. Otherwise go back to the lab instructor explain your problem and do it over. I taught EE labs as a grad student and several times people came back to do some additional work...no big deal.
 

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