Calculate Rocket Thrust Force of 90g Rocket Achieving 80m/s in 3.0s

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average thrust force of a toy rocket with a mass of 90g that reaches a velocity of 80m/s in 3.0 seconds. Participants are exploring the dynamics involved in this scenario, particularly focusing on the effects of gravity and the application of Newton's laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding average acceleration and its implications for thrust force calculations. There are questions about the role of gravity and whether it should be considered in the calculations. Some participants attempt to apply Newton's second law and express concerns about their understanding of the problem setup.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing various approaches and questioning assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of free-body diagrams and the relationship between thrust and weight, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to consider the effects of gravity and whether the mass of the rocket changes during the flight, indicating potential constraints in the problem setup. There is a sense of urgency as one participant notes a deadline for completing the work.

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A toy rocket, of mass 90g, acheives a velocity of 80m/s after 3.0s when fired straight up. What average thrust force does the rocket engine exert?

I dont' know what formula to use for this
 
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Can you find the average acceleration?
 
is this held in Earth where gravity exists? lol, i know its a dumb question, but sometimes during my life, i have done problems like these without the involvement of gravity.
 
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avg acceleration = 26.667m/s and lol yea its on earth
 
no help?
 
Sucks@Physics said:
avg acceleration = 26.667m/s and lol yea its on earth

Acceleration is in m/s^2.

So what's Newton's second law?
 
what i did is...

Fnet = (m*v)/t

Fnet = (.09*80)/3 = 2.4N

What did i do wrong?
 
Am i not supposed to be solving for Fnet?
 
Can some1 help i ahve to have this finished by tomorrow and I'm doing it wrong
 
  • #10
Does it give you a rate at which the mass of the rocket is changing?
 
  • #11
I think I'm neglecting that.
 
  • #12
ok, start out by drawing a free-body diagram. since the thrust is accelerating upwards.. thrust must me greater than weight. therefore Ft-W=Ma soo Ft=w+ma, right?

Solve for a, and then just plug and chug..
 
  • #13
sweet thanks, i get it now
 
  • #14
aq1q said:
ok, start out by drawing a free-body diagram. since the thrust is accelerating upwards.. thrust must me greater than weight. therefore Ft-W=Ma soo Ft=w+ma, right?

Solve for a, and then just plug and chug..

hey, i have the same question, but what does w stand for? since m = mass, Ft = force of thrust anf a = acceleration (right)? then what is w?
 
  • #15
What force must the rocket thrust counteract in order for the rocket to rise?
 

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