Calculate the Average Surface Temperature of Earth

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The discussion revolves around estimating the average surface temperature of the Earth based on its thermal equilibrium with solar radiation. The original poster presents a scenario involving the radiant thermal energy received from the Sun, questioning the necessary parameters for calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relevance of the given power value (390 W m−2) and its application in the equations provided. There are inquiries about the need for the Earth's surface area and how to interpret the intensity of solar radiation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the interpretation of power per unit area and its implications for the calculation. There is a recognition of varying perspectives on the appropriate values to use, particularly regarding the albedo effect and its impact on temperature estimates.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the assumptions made regarding the Earth's emissivity and the implications of using different values for solar intensity. The conversation also touches on the standard results for average surface temperature, indicating a range of values based on different assumptions.

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The Earth receives on average about 390 W m−2 of radiant thermal energy from the Sun, averaged over the whole of the Earth. It radiates an equal amount back into space, maintaining a thermal equilibrium that keeps the average temperature on Earth the same. Assuming the Earth is a perfect emitter of radiant energy (e = 1), estimate the average surface temperature of the Earth in °C

Homework Equations


P = eσAT^4
P ∝ T^4
λmaxT = 2.898 × 10−3 m K
3. Attempt
I've tried all these formulas, but I'm not getting anywhere. Am I supposed to know the surface area of the Earth because I feel like it's impossible without it
 
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Assume the area of the Earth to be ##A##, a variable. What, then, is the total power incident on the Earth's surface?
 
Qwertywerty said:
Assume the area of the Earth to be ##A##, a variable. What, then, is the total power incident on the Earth's surface?
Is the 390 m^-2 relevant for the equation. Should that be stated as the P value or should it just be 390W
 
Do you know what intensity is? It's formula? It's unit?
 
Qwertywerty said:
Do you know what intensity is? It's formula? It's unit?
I've realized how to do it. The Power is average for each m^2 of earth. That means the surface area should be 1m^2 and the Power should be 390.
By subbing everything in, you get an average surface temperature of 288 Kelvin or 15°C
 
lasisdabomb said:
That means the surface area should be 1m^2 and the Power should be 390.
More appropriate wording would be - an average of 390W of power is incident per sq.m on the surface of the earth. This is what you mean, right?

And congratulations, on having solved the problem:smile:
 
Qwertywerty said:
More appropriate wording would be - an average of 390W of power is incident per sq.m on the surface of the earth. This is what you mean, right?

And congratulations, on having solved the problem:smile:
Yes, that's the right answer with the given information, but 390 W/m2 is too high. Should be more like 340.
Taking the 30% albedo into account as well would bring the temperature down to 255K, which is the standard result.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes, that's the right answer with the given information, but 390 W/m2 is too high. Should be more like 340.
Taking the 30% albedo into account as well would bring the temperature down to 255K, which is the standard result.
Thanks for the info!
 

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