Calculate the kinetic energy of the mass

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The problem involves calculating the kinetic energy of a 5.0 kg mass released from rest on a frictionless 30° inclined plane after sliding 40 cm down the incline. The context is rooted in classical mechanics, specifically focusing on energy and motion along an incline.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration down the slope, questioning whether it is equal to 9.8 m/s² or 9.8 sin(30°). There is an exploration of the forces acting on the mass and the appropriate orientation of axes for analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the correct approach for determining acceleration and the implications of axis orientation. There is an acknowledgment of potential misinterpretations in the original poster's method, and a willingness to explore different approaches collaboratively.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the acceleration due to gravity along the incline and the need to clarify the coordinate system used in the analysis. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations, indicating a need for further exploration of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A 5.0 kg mass is released from rest, at the top of a frictionless 30° inclined plane. Calculate the kinetic energy of the mass when it has slid 40cm down the incline starting from rest. (ANS = 9.80 J)


Homework Equations


KE=1/2(mv^2)
a=v/t
d=v1t + 1/2a(t^2)
v2^2=v1^2 + 2ad
v2=v1 + at
d= (v1+v2/2)*t


The Attempt at a Solution


G: v1= 0 ; θ= 30° ; d=40cm
R: KE=? ; v2=? ; t=?
(NE direction is +ve)

(1) v2y^2=v1y^2 - 2aydy
v2y^2= √0 -2(9.80)(-0.40sin30)
v2y= 1.98 m/s

(2) v2y=v1y +at
t = v2y/ay
t = 0.202 s

(3) v2x= dx/t
v2x= 0.40cos30/0.202
v2x= 1.71 m/s

(4) v2= √(1.98)^2 + (1.71)^2
v2= 2.62 m/s

(5) KE = 1/2(mv^2)
KE = 1/2(5.0*2.62^2)
KE = 17.2 J

My answer is far off from the correct one so I'm assuming my approach might be wrong.. But I just don't know from where it is that I'm doing it wrong.. Probably something with my calculations, not too sure entirely..
 
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The acceleration down the slope is not 9.8m/s2, what is it?
 
not sure if it's zero or 9.8sin30
 
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CAF123 said:
The acceleration down the slope is not 9.8m/s2, what is it?

would it be zero?
 
The acceleration I believe would be Fnet=ma (in the x direction). So add up all the forces in the X direction, which seems to be only one because the surface is frictionless. So mgsin30=5a
 
brown20b,
Sorry, I misinterpreted your first approach - you have your axes horizontally and vertically rather than perpendicular and parallel to the slope which is the usual orientation of the frame for solving such a problem. But we can still do it your way if you wish.

The axes are usually oriented such that one axis points in the direction of the net acceleration of the block, in this case down the slope and the other axis perpendicular to it. With this orientation, we arrive at the equation posted by azhang40 in one step.

In your attempt, you assumed the acceleration in your y direction was g and the acceleration in your x direction was 0 It is not the case, since the resultant is then g and clearly the block is not in free fall.

I am happy to go through the method with your x and y horizontally and vertically, or would you prefer to consider the reorientation of axes? Both methods follow the same process, one just takes a little longer.
 

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