Calculate the magnetic field from the vector potential

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The discussion revolves around deriving the magnetic fields from the magnetic vector potential of a current-carrying loop, specifically focusing on the radial and axial components. The original poster expresses difficulty in deriving the axial magnetic field after successfully deriving the radial field.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive both radial and axial magnetic fields, sharing their derivations and seeking feedback on potential errors. Participants question the independence of certain variables in the derivation process and suggest possible typographical errors in the equations presented.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's derivations, offering insights and questioning assumptions. Some participants have identified potential typographical errors that may be affecting the results, and the original poster acknowledges these errors and plans to update their work.

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The discussion includes considerations about the independence of variables in the context of the derivations, as well as the implications of any typographical errors on the overall results.

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Given the magnetic vector potential of a current carrying loop in cylindrical coordinate system, derive the axial and radial magnetic fields.
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I am trying to derive radial and axial magnetic fields of a current carrying loop from its magnetic vector potential. So far, I have succeeded in deriving the radial field but axial field derivation gives me trouble.
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My derivation of radial field (eq 1) can be found here.

Can anyone point out where I went wrong in the derivation of axial field?

My derivation of axial field is given below.

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In case the images are blurred, you can see them here and here.

On comparing, Eq.7 with Eq.2, the coefficient of E do not match.

I have done this derivation multiple times, yet arrive at the same answer.
Can anyone point me where I went wrong?
 
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Hmm is it dead sure that K and E are independent of ##\rho,z##? So you can treat them as constants when taking the derivatives with respect to those variables?
 
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I think the mistake is here:

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The two expressions circled in green are not equivalent.

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Do you have typographical errors in your equations (1) and (2)? Should the denominators inside the square brackets be ##(a-\rho)^2 + z^2## instead of ##(a+\rho)^2 + z^2##?
 
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Delta2 said:
Hmm is it dead sure that K and E are independent of ##\rho,z##? So you can treat them as constants when taking the derivatives with respect to those variables?
Thank you for your response.
I think they are independent of ##\rho,z##. In my derivation of radial field, I have treated them to be independent of ##z## and arrived at the exact solution.
 
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TSny said:
I think the mistake is here:

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The two expressions circled in green are not equivalent.

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Do you have typographical errors in your equations (1) and (2)? Should the denominators inside the square brackets be ##(a-\rho)^2 + z^2## instead of ##(a+\rho)^2 + z^2##?
Thank you! This solves my problem. I don't know how I missed it!

There is indeed a typographical error for equations (1) and (2). I will update them and provide a full derivation for axial field asap.
 
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