Vector potential from magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the vector potential from a uniform magnetic field within a hollow cylinder. The magnetic field is specified as ##{\bf{B}}=B_{z}{\bf{\hat{z}}}##, and the vector potential is proposed as $${\bf{A}}=\frac{BR^{2}}{2r}{\bf{\hat{\phi}}}$$. Participants are exploring the application of Stokes's theorem in this context.

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  • Participants discuss starting from the definition of vector potential and applying Stokes's theorem. There are questions about the exact nature of the proof being sought and the consistency of the proposed vector potential with the magnetic field. Some participants express confusion regarding specific lines of reasoning and calculations presented.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to clarify the proof's intent and the uniqueness of the vector potential due to gauge transformations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is a mention of a reference to Sakurai, indicating that the problem may be drawn from advanced coursework. Participants are also noting potential issues with the reasoning presented in the calculations.

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If a uniform magnetic field ##{\bf{B}}=B_{z}{\bf{\hat{z}}}## exists in a hollow cylinder (with the top and bottom open) with a radius ##R## and axis pointing in the ##z##-direction, then the vector potential

$${\bf{A}}=\frac{BR^{2}}{2r}{\bf{\hat{\phi}}}?$$

using Stokes's theorem.

How can you prove this?
 
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Start from the definition of the vector potential, in terms of the field, and apply stokes' theorem.
What is it you are trying to prove exactly and why?
If you want to prove the vector potential is consistent with the given field, then use the definition to get the field from the potential.
 
I am trying to prove that

$${\bf{A}}=\frac{BR^{2}}{2r}{\bf{\hat{\phi}}}?$$

using Stokes's theorem.

This is something that has appeared in my reading of Sakurai.
 
##\displaystyle{{\bf B}=\nabla \times {\bf A}}##

##\displaystyle{\int {\bf B}\cdot{d {\bf l}}=\int (\nabla \times {\bf A})\cdot{d{\bf S}}}##

##\displaystyle{\int B_{r}(2\pi R)=\int (0,-\frac{BR^{2}}{2r^{2}},0)\cdot{d{\bf S}}}##

##\displaystyle{(0,0,0)=\int (0,-\frac{BR^{2}}{2r^{2}},0)\cdot{d{\bf S}}}##

Does it look good so far?
 
Third line does not make sense - please show your reasoning.
 
The second line is not correct.

Also note that the vector potential generally is not unique but subject to gauge transformations.
 
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Yah - that's where the reasoning likely went astray.
 

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