Calculate the mass when not hanging it in dynamometer

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of an object using a dynamometer without hanging the object. The original poster is uncertain about the method and mentions a coefficient of static friction (µv) in the context of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers dragging the object with the dynamometer to measure the normal force (N) but expresses uncertainty about the approach. Some participants seek clarification on the term "dynamometer" and its application in this context.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging with the original poster's question, providing clarifications about terminology and suggesting that the method of dragging the object could be valid. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply the dynamometer effectively without hanging the object.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the specific setup and constraints of using the dynamometer, as well as the exact nature of the problem involving static friction.

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Homework Statement


Hello! I have a physics problem that I can't solve. I'm supposed to describe how I can calculate the mass when knowing the µv (I don't know the english term but I'm guessing friction...something (friction when the object is not moving)). You are allowed to use a dynamometer but you are not allowed to hang the object (that I want to know the mass of) in it. I have nooo idea how to solve it haha.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I thought that maybe i could drag the object with the dynamometer and then know the N, but i dunno? haha please help.
 
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Welcome to the PF. :smile:
Elzz said:
µv (I don't know the english term but I'm guessing friction...something (friction when the object is not moving)).
The term is probably "static friction" or µs. That is used when two surfaces are moving together and not sliding past each other.

Elzz said:
You are allowed to use a dynamometer but you are not allowed to hang the object (that I want to know the mass of)
Can you post a picture or diagram of what you call a "dynamometer"? I'm familiar with the term, but only in the context of measuring motor power and torque, not in the context of measuring the coefficient of friction or a mass. Thank you.

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berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

The term is probably "static friction" or µs. That is used when two surfaces are moving together and not sliding past each other.Can you post a picture or diagram of what you call a "dynamometer"? I'm familiar with the term, but only in the context of measuring motor power and torque, not in the context of measuring the coefficient of friction or a mass. Thank you.

EDIT/ADD -- You can attach a PDF or JPEG file to your reply by using the "Upload" button in the lower right corner of the Reply/Edit window. :smile:
Thank you for responding!

https://www.google.se/search?q=dyna...B&biw=360&bih=512#imgrc=d3cklw9wGJhFCM:&isa=y

This is a dynamometer. If you hang an object in the hook of it you can measure the force (in Newton) and then calculate the mass.
 
Elzz said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought that maybe i could drag the object with the dynamometer and then know the N, but i dunno? haha please help.

That sounds correct to me. You just need to describe the method in more detail.
 

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