Calculate the power in the load

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power in a load for a thyristor circuit, specifically focusing on the relationship between output and input powers at a firing angle of 45 degrees. The context includes homework-related inquiries and technical reasoning regarding power calculations in electrical circuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about calculating power due to missing values for input and load voltages.
  • Another participant suggests that the relationship of output to input powers can be determined without knowing the specific voltages, emphasizing the use of integrals to find mean power.
  • A participant proposes a calculation for expressing power as a percentage, using the sine of the firing angle.
  • Another participant reminds that power is proportional to the square of the output voltage, indicating that this must be considered in calculations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact method for calculating power, as there are differing views on the necessary parameters and formulas to use. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific calculations needed.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations due to missing values for input and load voltages, as well as potential dependencies on definitions of power in the context of the circuit being analyzed.

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Homework Statement



for the thyristor circuit calculate the power in the load as a percentage of max power for a firing angle of 45^

Homework Equations



Va=Vm/2pi (1+cos theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



theta=arcos 0.707
45^=arcos 0.707

but as there is no value for VS or Vl i don't know what the ratio between them is to calculate power any advice apreciated


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Since what is asked is the relationship of output to input powers, you don't need the voltages.
Remember that the mean power of a periodic wave is the integral through one period of the amplitude squared, divided by the period.
At the input you have a sinusoid, so you can calculate the integral. At the output you have only part of the sinusoid, since during the rest of the cycle you have zero V.
For the amplitude of the output voltage, it is either equal to that of the input voltage, or is this amplitude minus the drop in the device junction.
 
Man you so know your stuff. Thanks for the reply I am going to re do the lesson and take on board what you have said to see if i can figure it out

thanks ian
 
So presumably then expressing as a percentage

% = sin45 x 100
= 70.71%

Or am I way off?
 
You must also take into consideration that Power is proportional to square of output voltage.
 

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