Calculate the speed of car for maximum economy

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The discussion centers on calculating the speed for maximum fuel economy, with participants agreeing that the optimal speed is 80 km/hr. There is contention regarding the textbook solution, which is deemed incorrect by some contributors. They argue that setting the derivative to zero is a valid method for finding extreme points, but it does not guarantee a maximum without further analysis. The second derivative test is emphasized as necessary for confirming the nature of the critical point. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of proper mathematical interpretation in determining maximum efficiency.
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Homework Statement
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This is the problem,

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This is the textbook solution ; i think the textbook solution is not correct!

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My thought,
##S_{max}## will be given by $$\frac {dy}{dS}=0$$
$$\frac {dy}{dS}=\frac {-1}{400}S+\frac {1}{5}=0$$
$$S=80$$
It is maximum economy because ##y{''}<0##, i.e by use of the second derivative test.
 
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chwala said:
chwala said:
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My thought,
$$S_{max}=\frac {dy}{dS}=0$$
This equation doesn't make sense, as it says that ##S_{max} = \frac {dy}{dS}## (not true) and that ####S_{max} = 0## (also not true).
I understand what you're trying to say, but this isn't the right way to say it.
chwala said:
$$\frac {dy}{dS}=\frac {-1}{400}S+\frac {1}{5}=0$$
$$S=80$$
It is maximum economy because ##y{''}<0##, i.e by use of the second derivative test.
I get 80 (km/hr) as well.
 
Mark44 said:
This equation doesn't make sense, as it says that ##S_{max} = \frac {dy}{dS}## (not true) and that ####S_{max} = 0## (also not true).
I understand what you're trying to say, but this isn't the right way to say it.

I get 80 (km/hr) as well.
Let me re-phrase that...
 
chwala said:
Let me re-phrase that...
Setting dy/dS to 0 is one way of finding extreme points, one of which may or may not be a maximum point.
 
Mark44 said:
Setting dy/dS to 0 is one way of finding extreme points, one of which may or may not be a maximum point.
That's why we use the second derivative test to ascertain that...Looks like textbook guys were after all wrong. Cheers Mark.
 
chwala said:
That's why we use the second derivative test to ascertain that.
My point is that extreme points can be found at 1) points at which the derivative is 0; 2) endpoints of the domain, in case the domain is limited; 3) points at which the derivative doesn't exist, but the underlying function is defined.
Examples of cases 2 and 3:
##f(x) = \sqrt x## (case 2) -- The derivative is never zero, but the function has a global minimum at x = 0.
##g(x) = |x|## (case 3) -- The derivative is never zero, and fails to exist at x = 0, at which g has a global minimum.
 

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